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Post by gwffantrav on Jul 10, 2006 0:44:59 GMT -5
I just had my 2nd little one Thursday and I've heard 2 of the most pathetic stories in my life.
The first was that dope poisoning his kids to try and sue Campbell's soup, saying the soup was poisoned. Real nice. Do it to your kids. Hey &*(^%*(&()_^!@()...poisen yourself you sorry piece of *&(&@_#.
The other was an idiot mom who left a 4 year old home alone to spend time with her boyfriend for his birthday. The kid fell 11 stories out a window and is alive, but hurt pretty bad. I say, let's push her off an 11 story window and see what happens
Really, what the hell is happening to the world. I look in my kids eyes and see nothing but joy and happiness. These people...really, just fry them.
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Post by Trent Lawless on Jul 10, 2006 4:23:27 GMT -5
Trav, I'm with you, man. (Are you surprised? ;D) As a parent, when I hear some sick or tragic story of something totally avoidable happening to a kid, it twists my gut in knots. And I know you can relate, especially when it comes to the smallest of the small. Kids are not commodities.
For our second son, Trevor, we had to go through a battery of tests and procedures and pay in excess of $20,000 for an in-vitro procedure just to be able to have a shot at conceiving him. Fortunately for us, we were successful the first time. I'm not saying my wife and I are the best parents in the world, but I know we put energy and commitment into trying our best to do it right. When I think of all the parents in the world who had kids but didn't want them or choose to use them as a means to an end (like a woman trapping a man into becoming a dad just to try to get him to commit to her, which happened to a friend of mine), I wonder where's the justice in them having to do nothing to get something they didn't want, whereas Jen and I had to go through two years of what amounted to a monstrous physical (for her) and emotional (for both of us) torture and only have maybe a 50-50 chance at best of being successful...doesn't seem right to me. I'm just glad we were blessed with our first son before that, because he kept our eyes on the prize and kept our sanity through it all. He's a true miracle, because by all rights, we shouldn't have been able to have him, let alone conceive him the second month we tried!
Crosby, Stills, Nash, and (I believe) Young sang it best. "Teach your children well." (My brother would be so happy at the CSN reference.)
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Post by Graymar on Jul 10, 2006 6:19:59 GMT -5
Unfortunately, Trav, I have found that the older I get...the more insane parents are.
It is not infrequent that I see 'impossibilities of little things'. For example, I go to the bank. There is a kid about 4 swinging between two chairs like you would on a parallel bars...with a sucker in his mouth. The mother is across the room paying no attention. The atrocities I see, curdles my blood everyday.
I was in a Burger King in Boston last summer. A mother changed a baby's diaper on an eating table...crap and all. I told her how deplorable that was...she just smiled at me and went on.
As Linus said, "I love Mankind, it's people I can't stand!"
Graymar
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Post by Darth Turkish on Jul 10, 2006 7:43:12 GMT -5
The thing is parenting is a skill that many people do not take the time to work on. Many parents that I see are very selfish. They are selfish in the vein that they want to feel good by having sex, and live in the moment and not care about the consequences. Then when a child comes along, reality begins to hit but the reality is "Oh, crap, this is really going to hurt my style." The parents are still in the selfish mode and do not know try to come out of it. It is the child that suffers. It is also pretty difficult being a teacher in a well to-do high school and seeing the blatant stupidity of parents as they advocate wrongly for their children. Most of these parents in this case are well educated and succsssful professionals. Parents that defend their kids cheating on tests, plagarizing whole papers, cursing out their teachers and principals, doing drugs in schools (while in class,mind you); some of this stuff is absolutely mind boggling. I still remember from my first year the father who advocated that their son not have homework from any class because he does not "respond well" to it . Dad was in upper management at the local IBM. I may not be the world's best parent either, but my son is always my top priority. His goofy toothless smiles melt me; how can he not be? I am so damn scared of raising an immoral, uncaring, disrutpive or destructive child is borders on paranoia. I shudder to imagine what overt and unintentional lessons the person who changed their child on the eating tables teaches their child at home.
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Post by Graymar on Jul 10, 2006 7:57:58 GMT -5
Well said Turkish...
I have two 'kids' of my own. As I near the end of my 'parenting cycle' (the kids are 19 and 14), I am pleased to see that they are as disgusted in the parenting they see go around them. A recent personal example. My 14 has a couple of people at school that do not like her. My daughter made some inappropriate remarks that she apologized for. Granted, she was wrong and it was sensless. A couple of week's later our house was rolled (we think) by the girls involved. Now, here's the kicker. These are 14 year olds that did it between 1a and 5a. Also, our house is at least 2 miles from the nearest of the girls. We counted 28 toliet paper rolls in the yard. Here is what disturbed me about the situation...who helped them? They bought 28 rolls of paper without a parent knowing? A parent let them out between 1 and 5? Someone had to drive to get the toliet paper and to roll the yard.
One parent I confronted about this had bragged about a month ago how 'cool' he was because he took his kid 'rolling'.
Now how's that for parenting?
Graymar
P.S. Just saw Million Dollar Baby this weekend. Try the 'parents' in this movie on for an example of what is actually occurring in our society.
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