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Post by swarm on Sept 11, 2006 12:17:23 GMT -5
Now, I know at first glance this looks like a no brainer, and it is...I'm just curious if any of the TNA fans honestly think Christian is better off in TNA now that is obvious he is a complete failure outside of the WWE.
I can't imagine how jealous he must be of Edge...just think, had he stayed, there is a good chance he would have been written into a Main Event angle w Edge over the WWE Title at some point...
Knowing what we know now about what a garbage farm TNA is, does anyone really think he still made the right decision?
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Post by BDS on Sept 11, 2006 12:25:10 GMT -5
Edge is a bigger star hands down, in my opinion. However, I think Christian made the right decision.
From all accounts, his TNA pay is pretty much what his WWE downside offer was, he obviously didn't think he was going to get pushed to where he was going to make a bigger payout, and he works like three days a month now. Plus, he can supplement his TNA income with indy bookings, where he no doubt commands a high dollar. Business wise, I definitely think Christian made the right choice.
Edit: Because I was dumb and typed subsequent instead of supplement. Me fail at English? Unpossible.
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Post by Wildfire on Sept 11, 2006 22:02:14 GMT -5
While I agree to a large extent here with BDS, an Edge v Christian main event program on RAW would be awesome... not sure who'd be the face though... they're both far better as heels.
Heck, maybe an E&C renunion could re-vitalize the tag division.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Christian back in WWE before too long, if TNA keeps going down the road they're on.
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Post by Splattercat on Sept 12, 2006 0:14:56 GMT -5
Hmm...harsh Schedule, mid card, glass ceiling, travel everywhere in the US make lots of money..? Or leave on good terms (?), work less, be at the top of a lesser promotion, drive home after work to be with your family, make (approximately) the same amount of money... I know what I would have done in his position...WWE IS the big place to be, but if you can live easier, and as such, be happier someplace else while still making the same money, who cares what anyone else thinks..? He made the right choice... To my knowledge, he simply let his contract run out, he didn't fight with management or anything like that...if TNA doesn't work out for him anymore, I'm sure he could go back to WWE if he wanted to... Also to my knowledge, Adam Copeland and Jason Reso are still good friends...If so, there would be no jealousy there...Personally, if my childhood friend and I were working together and he got a promotion after I left, I'd be happy for him...Especially if such a promotion was never in the cards for me...  |
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Post by lordrahl on Sept 12, 2006 0:28:55 GMT -5
I agree that Christian made the right decision to go to TNA, but even if he would have stayed in WWE Edge will always be the bigger star. I think that's just plain simple. I agree with splattercat that Christian is probably a lot more comfortable in TNA for the same reasons he listed above.
Keep the Faith
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Post by JED-SE on Sept 12, 2006 7:42:36 GMT -5
Edge is easily the bigger star with a rated R! Christian is still a great name. I'm not sure he's making the same money as he did in WWE, but it must be nice to still be well known in wrestling and be able to spend time with his family.
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Post by pikemojo on Sept 12, 2006 17:37:54 GMT -5
Well, I wouldn't say that Christian is a complete failure outside of WWE and whether or not he made the right choice is up to him because it was more for personal reasons than professional. Christian is also much higher on the card now that he is with TNA. It just happens that he is in a smaller company.
Edge is by far the bigger star though. No question about it. I absolutely voted for him.
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Post by gatekeeper on Sept 12, 2006 23:26:58 GMT -5
It's gotta be Edge.
Actually, Christian leaving probably helped Edge out. They always seemed to be trying to keep these guys linked in the storylines (at least somewhat).
When CC jumped, Edge went right to the top and won the WWE title.
Christian probably enjoyed more singles success in TNA than he ever would/will in the WWE. I don't see Vince ever putting the belt on him. But, who knows?
I would never leave the WWE intentionally if I were a wrestler. When you got a chance to be on top, you stay as long as you can. TNA will still be there for you to be the big star over there when you're done in WWE.
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Post by JED-SE on Sept 13, 2006 19:20:20 GMT -5
It's gotta be Edge. Actually, Christian leaving probably helped Edge out. They always seemed to be trying to keep these guys linked in the storylines (at least somewhat). When CC jumped, Edge went right to the top and won the WWE title. Christian probably enjoyed more singles success in TNA than he ever would/will in the WWE. I don't see Vince ever putting the belt on him. But, who knows? I would never leave the WWE intentionally if I were a wrestler. When you got a chance to be on top, you stay as long as you can. TNA will still be there for you to be the big star over there when you're done in WWE. I agree mostly with you payback, but in CC situation, (and in his only) I don't blame him for doing what he did. He left on good terms, so if / when TNA folds, he'll most likely have a job with WWE. If Vince were to put the belt on him upon his return, it would be a slow process, similar with Booker T. |
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Post by incognito on Sept 13, 2006 19:51:33 GMT -5
Even if you think Christan made the right decision; how could someone think he's a bigger star than Edge right now. I don't think Christan was as big a star as NWA Champ as was as IC champ. As far as jumping ship only Christan knows for sure if it was a good decision. He wanted to be a bigger fish even if it was a smaller pond; and he got it. I have a hard time seeing him as better off in TNA even before his character flopped; but if he's still happier in TNA and making about the same money, then yea it was the right decision for him. But, I have a feeling he can't be too happy. His status as big fish is back in the hands of JJ, it sounds like he's behind Samoa Joe in the pecking order to get the belt, and his reign as champion...well lets just say it was closer to David Arkett than Ric Flair on the success scale. If it were me I'd be wondering if there was anyway to get back into the E without joining Vince's club. Edit: I'd like to hear from someone who says Christan is a bigger star than Edge. It's one of those things that seems so incomprehensible to me that I can't come up with any reasonable reason that doesn't involve a coma shortly after E&C broke up. |
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Post by Bazzy on Sept 14, 2006 0:45:39 GMT -5
Did Christian make the right move , to TNA ? . Look at him now and then look at Edge . If Christian would of stayed , would he of been up there with Edge ? . Personally I don't think he would . He would NEVER of got any heavyweight belts . Maybe a few title shots , but nothing more . I feel the WWE is using Edge , as punishment for Christian (and I said this at the time of Edge's 1st reign) .
Life at TNA - I do wonder , did the rush Christian to win the belt ? . He would of been better doing a few feuds for 6 months . The sad thing is guys like Christian & Rhino in WWE eyes are nothing more than mid carders . Any title reigns wether heavyweight or X-Divison . WWE will just say they were ONLY mid carders when here . It all depends on how Christian himself feels . Is he happier now , since he quit WWE life on the road etc . Who really knows that one ?
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Post by spiderbite on Sept 14, 2006 6:55:51 GMT -5
Actually Edges first reign was an attempt to get rid of some fan heat on Cena and get everybody cheering for him again. Have them boo the despicable heel.
His 2nd reign was because he deserved it. Both because he's been a great company man to the WWE and Vince and because he's the most watched champion in 5 years.
O and you all know who I voted for!
Cheap plug - Buy his book! It reeks of awesomeness!
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Post by swarm on Sept 14, 2006 7:05:02 GMT -5
The fact that even 3 people voted that Christan is a bigger star in this business says a lot about some of the people who watch TNA...they just don't get it...you don't get it...you can't be helped.
you can't.
This poll isn't about if CC made the right decison...it's who is the bigger star in this business.
And 3 people here voted for Christian.
Amazing. And I mean that in a bad way.
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Post by spiderbite on Sept 14, 2006 7:09:33 GMT -5
Also for those who don't know, if it wasn't for his best friend, Christian wouldn't even have been in the business, at least not debuting in the WWE like he did.
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Post by Splattercat on Sept 14, 2006 15:20:04 GMT -5
Actually, in all honesty, I ignored the poll and responded to your post itself, answering the Questions therein...I think right now Christian is better off in TNA than in WWE...I don't think he would be jealous of Edge...And I do think he made the right choice... If you're right about TNA folding then Christian will return to the WWE, I imagine under a "no harm, no foul" pretense, and when he returns, he will be a bigger star (or at least more credible for having been at the top of another promotion) than he was... Bartleby: "This from the guy who still owes me ten dollars from a bet over which was going to be the bigger movie, E.T. or Krush Groove."
Loki: "Hey, **** you man, because time's going to tell on that one."
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Post by pikemojo on Sept 14, 2006 17:15:18 GMT -5
The fact that even 3 people voted that Christan is a bigger star in this business says a lot about some of the people who watch TNA...they just don't get it...you don't get it...you can't be helped. you can't. This poll isn't about if CC made the right decison...it's who is the bigger star in this business. And 3 people here voted for Christian. Amazing. And I mean that in a bad way. I really hope that you don't think that every single TNA fan is as completely clueless as you act like they are. Sure some are but you know dang well there are some really clueless WWE fans. (I seem to remember a story from a guy you met in a bar for example) I, like others, enjoy TNA and WWE and at the same time see their faults. I just tend to sit back and enjoy it rather than pick it apart. I do the same thing with movies. I enjoy way more movies than I hate. |
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Post by swarm on Sept 15, 2006 13:51:06 GMT -5
The fact that even 3 people voted that Christan is a bigger star in this business says a lot about some of the people who watch TNA...they just don't get it... I really hope that you don't think that every single TNA fan is as completely clueless as you act like they are. try to find the key word in my post...I tried to give you a hint... good luck... |
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Post by Pete on Sept 15, 2006 17:34:19 GMT -5
Of course Edge is the bigger star. Probably a better overall talent, too; their in-ring skills are about equal but Edge can play face and Christian's face run was a dud. But, there's a vast difference between being a bigger star and making the right decision re: staying with the WWE or leaving.
I think I posted this in another discussion, but...Christian, when he jumped, said that TNA's offer (they practically broke the bank to sign him, keep in mind) was higher than the WWE's downside guarantee. Christian lives in Florida, about a 2-hour drive from the Impact Zone. From all accounts, he saved and invested the money he made while the WWF was at its peak very well and is pretty much set for life as it is. That, and he has designs on being an actor.
So, with the WWE, he'd be on the road at least four days every week, running all over the country and sometimes all over the world. With TNA, he works four to seven nights a month and other than the occasional shot for ROH, never has to leave his home state. And he's making more money while doing it. And he's left with plenty of time to spend with his family and pursue other projects.
I think with Christian, it's pretty much a no-brainer whether to stay or go. If I had to guess, I'd bet "being on top" or getting a big singles push factored very little into Christian's decision.
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Post by theace4ever on Sept 20, 2006 12:19:59 GMT -5
Edge - bigger star, more charisma... sorry Christian fans, but its true
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Post by GrumpyBigBee on Sept 22, 2006 13:14:34 GMT -5
I agree that Christian is better off in TNA than in WWE
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