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Post by Darth Turkish on Dec 22, 2005 22:30:38 GMT -5
saw this pic  Got me thinking: Who would win? In THIS particular battle Wolvie has bone claws, as per the pic. Both fighters are transported to an abandoned and rundown warehouse district, with the remaints of cars and crumbling buildings. Assume they had no time to plan for the encounter at all- each has items they normally would carry (Maul: lightsaber, a few small tracking/ sensory gadgets- Wolverine: a cigar?) Let's say the two have a mile radius they can combat in. No outside (teammate) interference. A win would constitue being KOed at least for one minute. So, who would win? I will reserve judgement for a while; I want to see some responses. |
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Post by Gunslinger on Dec 22, 2005 22:43:36 GMT -5
I have to go with Darth Maul. He's got the superior reach and is much quicker. Lightsaber vs. Bone Claws? Please.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Dec 23, 2005 11:18:01 GMT -5
Even with adamantium I don't think Wolvie has a chance. And since lightsabers cauterize any wounds they make (except that one time in A New Hope), I don't think he'd be able to heal effectively. And that's before we factor in Maul's ability to use Dark Side Force powers. Maul in a walk.
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Post by jsanudo on Dec 23, 2005 13:55:18 GMT -5
I am a HUGE Star Wars fan. With that being said, I have read alot of Darth Maul material (get the Darth Maul book, very fun and easy read). Here is what I have concluded about Maul: He is a heck of a fighter, but his knife isn't that sharp if you get what I mean. I think Wolverine would some how be able to out smart Maul in this fight.
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Post by Darth Turkish on Dec 23, 2005 17:01:36 GMT -5
I would not say that "his knife isn't too sharp"; It is a characteristic of the Zabrak species to be over confident, thus Maul's gloating over Obi Wan that cost him dearly. He is certainly no Braintrust of the Universe, but he ain't that dumb.
Maul was responsible for building his Seeker probes and building Bloodfin, his speeder. Do not forget he also did the research to construct the replica of Exar Kun's lightsaber. He can be stealthy when necessary, and although he is eager to please his Master, he also knows patience.
I see it like this:
Physical Strength: I'd say roughly about even, but maybe a slight edge to Wolverine.
Agility: Even. Both have excellent agility and ability t o perform escapes and make quick and dealy attacks.
Fighting Prowess: Wolverine is adept/ a Master of several martial arts and fighting styles- although he mainly uses the "Berserker Rage" styled barrage of strikes. Maul is Master of Teras Kasi (unarmed combat), and Form VII lightsaber (with his double or single blade) syle as well as Jar'Kai (one blade in each hand). Maul is a weapon forged to kill and destroy plain and simple. Again, I'd have to go with roughly even here also; with an edge to Maul.
Other features. This is where I feel the field separates dramatically. Wolverine's Regeneration has saved his skin countless times, and he usually is willing to take a shot or cut to get to his opponent. However, against the controlled and concentrated plasma beam that is a lightsaber, that would prove fatal. Lightsabers have proven time and again that they can cut through flesh, bone, ceramite/plasteel and heavy, reinforced metals. Maul can take a few minor cuts and scrapes; Wolverine cannot afford to. He could perhaps regenerate from a cut of the lightsaber, but not in the minute time limit..
What puts Maul way over the top is his knowledge of the Force. This is the basis for his whole fighting ability with the lightsaber, giving a kind of ESP for blocking and attacking. The ability to speed up, jump higher, Force Push, and Force Choke finish the deal. Wolverine may be able to regenerate from a cauterized wound, but he definintely need to breathe!
Maul is an essential no- contest.
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Post by pikemojo on Dec 30, 2005 2:36:09 GMT -5
I think Wolverine would win. Maul could do tons of damage to Wolvie but if he was pissed enough Wolverine would keep going. The saber cauterizing Wolvie's wounds would actually help him. They would not be properly healed but he would not be losing tons and tons of blood that would cause him to pass out. Maul has his force powers but I would argue that they would do little true damage to Wolverine. I also think that Wolverine could probably destroy the lightsaber pretty easily. Without the saber Maul may still be able to fight but what is he gonna do...break Wolverine's bones? Uh, hello, not possible.
Wolverine would be really ugly after this fight but he would win. It would take weeks to heal for sure but he would heal.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Dec 30, 2005 9:59:03 GMT -5
They would not be properly healed but he would not be losing tons and tons of blood that would cause him to pass out.  It's not the blood loss Wolvie would need to fear from saber-strikes. He'd be missing limbs. If we've learned nothing else from Lucas's little space opera, it's that one of the primary strategies when wielding a lightsaber is to cut off the other guy's hand (or worse). |
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Dec 31, 2005 10:43:30 GMT -5
Bone Claw Wolverine, after an adjustment period, had his healing factor ramped up to the Nth degree...there's actually good reason to believe that Bone Claw Wolverine would regrow the lost limbs.
Basically, Wolverine's the Best There Is at what he does, which is gut overconfident but skilled guys who are Really Good.
Maul would get the upper hand, stop to gloat ("He just stood there!") and Wolverine would take him.
IMHO.
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Post by cakejedi on Dec 31, 2005 14:25:49 GMT -5
This one would be an easy victory for Darth Maul. In The Phantom Menace, Maul is only an apprentice and still he is able to take out a Qui-Gon Jin, a very powerful Jedi Knight. Plus, with the force, Maul would be able to "see" Wolverine's moves before he actually makes them. As tough as Wolvie may be, he would be an easy opponent for Darth Maul.
A more interesting match up would be Darth Maul vs. Spiderman. Spidey would be able to use his Spider-sense in combat to anticipate Maul's moves the same way that Maul could use the force. Plus Spidey has ranged attacks with his web-shooters whereas Maul does not.
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Post by Darth Turkish on Dec 31, 2005 14:54:55 GMT -5
Cake maybe spidey and maul next time  Remember, folks, the object is not "down, done and dead" but a 1 minute KO. If Wolverine's bone claw healing factor can allow him to regrow whole functioning limbs in one minute, he is game. Otherwise, he's just another victim. |
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Post by pikemojo on Jan 5, 2006 1:56:56 GMT -5
I guess I was assuming this was Adamantium bone Wolverine. Adamantium can't be broken as we have been told oh so many times.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Jan 5, 2006 8:39:19 GMT -5
No, but I'd bet good money they can be cut by a blade of plasma. Theoretically, the only thing that can stop a lightsaber blade is another lightsaber blade.
Really, that's the insurmountable advantage in favor of Maul. In a fist-fight (no claws from Wolvie), I'd give the edge to the Canuck, but with weapons he just doesn't have a prayer. I've never seen him leave a competitive fight unscathed, and getting "scathed" by a lightsaber is pretty terminal.
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Post by pikemojo on Jan 5, 2006 15:02:24 GMT -5
Here is an off topic question for you all. If Wolverine's Adamantium can cut through anything and Colossus' armor is indestructible then what would happen if Wolverine decided to cut Colossus?
Back on topic, I guess it would matter at what temp adamantium melts at and at what temp the light sabers are normally at in a fight.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Jan 5, 2006 15:07:54 GMT -5
Here is an off topic question for you all. If Wolverine's Adamantium can cut through anything and Colossus' armor is indestructible then what would happen if Wolverine decided to cut Colossus? I don't think adamantium = excalibur, no matter what Square(Enix) would have me believe, so I'd give the advantage to Colossus there. His claws may be unbreakable, but he can only apply so much force given their (and his) size. He may nick Colossus (who by contrast just has to be a massive wall), but I think Piotr would be fine. |
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Post by Darth Turkish on Jan 6, 2006 7:59:16 GMT -5
Plus Wolvie has never damaged or scratched Cap's shield, which I guess technically is THE most indestructible item in the Marvel Universe.
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Post by nelson on Jan 6, 2006 12:50:32 GMT -5
so so true turkish.
neil ;D
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Post by Darth Turkish on Jan 6, 2006 22:19:51 GMT -5
No, but I'd bet good money they can be cut by a blade of plasma. Theoretically, the only thing that can stop a lightsaber blade is another lightsaber blade. Really, that's the insurmountable advantage in favor of Maul. In a fist-fight (no claws from Wolvie), I'd give the edge to the Canuck, but with weapons he just doesn't have a prayer. I've never seen him leave a competitive fight unscathed, and getting "scathed" by a lightsaber is pretty terminal. I think it may take a cut or two, but the lightsaber would eventually slice through the adamantium. There have been cases where vibro weapons such as the eletcrostaff used General Grevious' MagnaGuards can withstand a saber cut. But eventuall they all do get cut. I thinik I'll call Maul the winner, by a total of 8 votes to four. I will set up a new Random Battle in a few days, after my son comes home form the hospital. That Battle will be even more delicious than this one. |
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Post by GalactiKing on Apr 19, 2006 9:13:48 GMT -5
Wolverine is the financially respectable way to go. ;D
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Post by theunknownmark on May 2, 2006 20:55:36 GMT -5
Come on guys... Darth Maul didn't even last long in Episode One. Wolvy has lasted... what is it 3, now? *grins*
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Post by swarm on May 2, 2006 21:15:48 GMT -5
Hey I'm as big a Star Wars fan as anyone but this one is a no contest: Wolverine all the way. C'mon...
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IPPON!!
