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Post by GalactiKing on Mar 5, 2007 13:24:40 GMT -5
No, he does not.
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Post by Mr. Jimmyface on Mar 5, 2007 13:39:38 GMT -5
Actually, he gets a new card with a sure fire finisher, but to call it an upgrade is up to you. Besides, he goes back to the old card when he travels to Centra. Got to admit - didn't see that one coming, Mr. Osk!
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Post by GrumpyBigBee on Mar 5, 2007 13:41:00 GMT -5
Demons of Hydra/Ninja Assassins were able to do their switch routine almost constantly for me. I seriously remember them switching literally dozens of times in a row. At certain times, they were friggin unbeatable. Heck, I specifically remember my jaw dropping a few times because they'd switch nonstop like twenty times in a row over the course of several matches. It was insane. I agree with Jeff. They were awesome for me as well. The switch was done atleast once a match. I cant remember them not getting it and not winning after. They are one of my top 5 best tag teams ever!
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Post by blueraider2 on Mar 5, 2007 17:45:57 GMT -5
i thought they do only do it once .
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Post by Dale on Mar 5, 2007 20:04:16 GMT -5
For me it was the Guardian Knot from Janus (original card). He seem to apply it every match and winning most with the first application.
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Post by Omen on Mar 5, 2007 21:07:18 GMT -5
Thantos is having a nice title run because of his Masterlock...He even beat Caiman with it...
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Post by Reno on Mar 6, 2007 6:40:22 GMT -5
In our fed, NERO is cash $$ in singles with WHILE ROME BURNS, just absolutely uncanny. In tag, the TROUBLESHOOTERS have not missed either TROUBLE X2 in over 3 years, although, if I were superstitious, I may have jinxed them.
BLOODLINE has been dreadful with the BIG BANG, missing it on his original card and every update he's ever had. In HOLOCAUST's original run, he couldn't hit the SHOCK WAVE to save his life.
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Post by bmurderh8s on Mar 6, 2007 6:58:43 GMT -5
I mirror a lot of the statements regarding Holocaust's inability to hit the SHOCKWAVE. Holocaust was so cool and if I recall correctly he always missed his damn finisher. I look forward to getting a second crack with him in the aCe. WAR > The Gladiators
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Post by GrumpyBigBee on Mar 7, 2007 14:09:04 GMT -5
i thought they do only do it once . I am not sure but I think at first you could do it many times and the offical rule later, once they changed to Ninja Assassins, was they could do it only once. But some promoters that I know did it as many times as they wanted to do it.
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Post by bigeasy on Mar 7, 2007 15:24:10 GMT -5
For me it was the Guardian Knot from Janus (original card). He seem to apply it every match and winning most with the first application. I haven't gotten to Janus yet, when I first ordered I got the orignal set, 2099 and 2100 and Janus' lines in the book to Heracles definitely crack me up so I look forward to using him. How does his finisher mechanic work?
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Post by GalactiKing on Mar 7, 2007 21:52:56 GMT -5
Spike and Frank Gotch for nonroll finishers for me.
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Post by Shon Maxx on Mar 10, 2007 9:17:03 GMT -5
I looked back at my old GWF results and according to them, Bishop Hell NEVER got disqualified for the Hellfire! He was always a favorite of mine.
Oh yeah, Chaos rolled Pin a lot. He played a great jobber in my fed.
I loved Holocaust, though his Shockwave was a hit or miss with me.
In LOW, Ox Baker rolls injury from his Heart Punch quite bit. Also, in my fed, if the person rolling pin from a finisher rolls an 11 or 12, they reverse the finisher, and the attacker rolls on L 3 Defense. Well, Ox has had his Heart Punch reversed more than any wrestler in my feds. I guess he scared quite a few people with that move.
Take care,
Jay
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Post by cakejedi on Mar 10, 2007 10:46:51 GMT -5
I may have the strangest "luck of the dice" story in the history of the GWF.
When I began with the New Beginning set, I ran a storyline where a mysterious party gained control of Latasha'a contract and entered her in the tournament to determine the first GWF Champion of the New Beginning era. The intent of this "mysterious party' was to injure her as retribution for something that occurred in the past. Well, this plan backfired when Latasha actually won the tournament and held onto the title for a year. Yes, I did use the female conversion chart. But EVERY time she hit her finisher, she got the pin fall. Latasha actually holds victories over Disaster and Paralyze in my fed. The dice were LUCKY for her and she always hit her finisher.
By the way, Latasha is still trying to uncover the mystery of who entered her in the tournament in the first place.
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Post by stephenvegas on Mar 10, 2007 14:22:12 GMT -5
For LOW, Jimmy Snuka for me seems to miss his SUPERFLY LEAP way more than the just 1 out of every 6 times that his stats would indicate he should. Although Snuka has won many matches in my LOW fed via his SUPERFLY LEAP, he also lost a few matches last fall when he was feuding with Gorgeous George because he would roll a 6 while going for the SUPERFLY LEAP and then, after Snuka missed and crashed hard to the mat, George would apply his SPINNING TOE HOLD for the victory.
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Post by dbfnq on Mar 10, 2007 15:04:26 GMT -5
Latasha actually holds victories over Disaster and Paralyze in my fed. When I ran a NB tournament as practice (not part of my fed) the women did pretty well against the guys. Phantasy beat Tristan by countout, She Devil pinned American Guy, Shann-Ra made Muss tap out, Latasha beat Valour by DQ, Shann-Ra beat Switchblade by DQ, and Latasha pinned Swarm cleanly to make it into the semifinals. That was with the conversions, but without the double-DQ rule.
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Post by jcr48 on Mar 17, 2007 23:54:32 GMT -5
U.S. Male has a tag finisher he can miss but never does.
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Post by JamieOD on Mar 18, 2007 4:39:24 GMT -5
The Troubleshooters always hit Trouble Times Two in their tag matches and they usually win the match with it.
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Post by jefft on Apr 16, 2007 9:20:15 GMT -5
i thought they do only do it once . Didn't see this the first time around. Nope, according to The Demons of Hydra entry in 2095, they can 'switch' on ANY PIN attempt. If you've been using them your way, you've really been shafting them, dude.
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Post by Dragon Breath on Apr 16, 2007 9:38:27 GMT -5
Holocaust always hit SHOCKWAVE in my fed and was Galaxian Champion more than once...one of my all-time favorites he did very well for me. His two most memorable fueds were with Janus for the belt which he won... and a FOTY with Raven as his partner vs. Brute and Massace. Holocaust and Raven ended up running both Gladiators out of my fed which led to the Aethran Civil War. Multiple Tag Team Champion and Galaxian Champion 2 or 3 times... One of the best ever in my fed. That's amazing. I'm up to 2100, and I can't even get Holocaust over against Doomsayer. Does Holocaust get an upgrade later? Well, I'm up to 2101 and Holocaust has become unstoppable. He was buried on the roster as part of W.A.R. Switching to the CPC under the watchful eye of Reynard B. Guile has paid off for Holocaust. He's moved through a bunch of mid card guys and just defeated Janus. He's broken into my Fed's top 10 rankings, and is on the short list of wrestlers who may get to wrestle Max Shield for the IP strap.
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Post by jefft on Apr 16, 2007 10:11:40 GMT -5
Holocaust never got above midcard status for me, his finisher was just too inconsistent. He'd sometimes make a run, but against the tougher guys that could survive longer against him he'd eventually miss that finisher and it'd be over for him. I'll confess I never liked the character though, I thought he was one of those very few characters Tom created whose look and abilities were just too cheesy or 'over-the-top'. Example - Alpha Force 2093.
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