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Post by JimSteel on Apr 15, 2007 6:40:20 GMT -5
Commando Sam
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Post by Eliath on Apr 15, 2007 7:08:01 GMT -5
I say US Patriot/Traitor because Sam wasn't really a heel turn because he was influenced by Mesmer. Sam was the most shocking plot twist though.  |
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Post by Vidtek on Apr 15, 2007 9:28:19 GMT -5
I'm going with OTHER on this one. I think all of those turns where shocking at the time. And yes, it could be argued that Sam's was not a real "turn," but think about it, he never really was the same man after that. But what about Natural Man into Vanity? Pit Viper into....Pit Viper only a bad guy?
However, storyline-wise the most shocking turn of all time has to be Cosmos to Thantos in late 2086. I mean without that turn we wouldn't have a GWF as we know it today, and no one at that time saw it coming!
In my mind the turn I was most shocked by was Wolf rejoining the Gladiators duing the Civil War. I remember thinking that Wolf would have never gone back to Aethra, especially with the bloody feuds he had with Spike and Mayhem. But then there he was, face paint and all, ready to throw down beside the guys that hated him more than anyone else in wrestling. I just couldn't believe that. Might not count as a heel turn to some people, but despite their popularity, the Gladiators where not (and still are not, despite current writings) Faces. So there you go.
Big Time
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Post by theringmaster on Apr 15, 2007 10:03:52 GMT -5
Had to go with other. Cosmos-Thantos as stated by the Smasher.
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Post by incognito on Apr 15, 2007 10:20:17 GMT -5
Cosmos
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Post by Matt on Apr 15, 2007 11:49:16 GMT -5
I'm voting Mesmer. I remember being shocked at the Mesmer turn, because at the time, that was Mark's favorite character, and I couldn't believe Tom would do that to Mark!
Although I'd almost go with Pit Viper. It was the original heel turn that affected game play. Plus we never saw it coming at the time.
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Post by mikefortune on Apr 15, 2007 13:41:59 GMT -5
For me it was Pit Vyper. I remember Rob Nadon and myself sharing the game and when I went to his place he haneded me the book for the newest set and said you gotta read this. It was a shock. This was the first turn in the game. The whole Cosmos/Thantos thing happened first but 20 years ago Tom had not written any of those cards or storyline. So for me that was and is the big one for me.
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Post by azfan on Apr 15, 2007 15:31:05 GMT -5
It depends what angle you look at it from. Cosmos turned prior to the first edition. We only really knew him as a heel.
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Post by Pete Beck on Apr 15, 2007 22:03:30 GMT -5
Rising Sun/Eclipse...never saw it coming!
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Post by gatekeeper on Apr 15, 2007 22:34:45 GMT -5
I'm gonna go with U.S. Patriot-Traitor.
Don't think you can count Cosmos - Thantos as we already knew that happened in the 1st edition.
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Post by MikeMcKinney on Apr 15, 2007 23:04:45 GMT -5
I'm gonna go with U.S. Patriot-Traitor. Don't think you can count Cosmos - Thantos as we already knew that happened in the 1st edition. I went with Payback...Solid. |
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Post by Thad Killian on Apr 16, 2007 1:08:25 GMT -5
This was a toss up as I was totally blown away by both Eclipse and US Traitor...both had my jaw on the floor with my eyes like this...  |
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Post by Bazzy on Apr 17, 2007 1:08:41 GMT -5
Rising Sun then Commander Sam
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Post by Darth Turkish on Apr 17, 2007 11:04:16 GMT -5
Patriot/ Traitor- still do not really understand why.
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Post by GalactiKing on Apr 17, 2007 15:40:53 GMT -5
Mesmer for me simply because it came out of nowhere but he turned out to be so much more interesting as a heel.
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Post by Eliath on Apr 17, 2007 16:51:00 GMT -5
Agreed Troy that Mesmer was so much more interesting as a heel.
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Post by swo on Apr 17, 2007 18:05:48 GMT -5
For me it was Galactic Punisher.
Thank God he turned....Vigilante was the coolest !
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Post by jester on Apr 17, 2007 18:12:34 GMT -5
For me it was Galactic Punisher. Thank God he turned....Vigilante was the coolest ! 100% agree , favorite chacter and drawing ever |
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Post by steefposton on Apr 17, 2007 21:54:49 GMT -5
I went with Sam, feels like when Hogan turned, just doens't sit right
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Post by GMAN on Apr 18, 2007 7:20:28 GMT -5
U.S. Patriot.
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IPPON!!
