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Post by swarm on Nov 9, 2006 11:13:07 GMT -5
Trav, with all due respect, you ragging on Tom is like a truck driver ragging on a Rocket Scientist.
Tom is a freaking genius. brilliant isn't even the word...to compare him to anything Jarrett is just laughable.
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Post by Tournament Master on Nov 9, 2006 11:22:16 GMT -5
Butcher was 3-0 vs. Monolith, beating him with Dr. Death, Nick Bockwinkle and Spike. Butcher was unstopable! No one can ever say that Swarm isn't passonate about the game and about Tom. I think that at the CPC party we may need to have the Monolith Legends Open challenge. Monolith takes on all LOW wrestlers. Highlighted by the Best of 7 vs. Dr. Death.
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Post by Splattercat on Nov 9, 2006 11:29:31 GMT -5
Statistically, Mil, Bockwinkel and Race are probably the only three that would score any wins on Monolith...Sucks that I'll never be at a G-Con, but seriously, I think you guys took the whole situation WAY too seriously... Somewhere in the world, Monolith has been beaten by Plethador...Better make a special chart to make sure THAT never happens again...
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Post by swarm on Nov 9, 2006 11:42:21 GMT -5
without passion there would be no reason for a heart...and without a heart, there would be no reason to live...
and then we'd all be dead. and where is the fun in that?
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Post by gatekeeper on Nov 9, 2006 11:46:02 GMT -5
Crazy upsets can happen, its the luck of the roll. The Murdok loss to Anaxis was with the conversion chart in place. Oh wow! I thought that was pre-conversion chart days. Great job as always TM!
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Post by bmurderh8s on Nov 9, 2006 11:46:29 GMT -5
It amazes me that Tom could actually be upset at the fact that Dr. Death beat Monolith. So much so that he'd have to introduce a conversion chart. I don't see why thats really a big deal. It's just a freakin game. Dr. Death pinned Monolith. OHMYGOD! Its the end of the world! Everybody freak out!! Some people take the game and it's characters way too seriously.
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Post by gatekeeper on Nov 9, 2006 11:47:06 GMT -5
Great post by MarkCPC. He absolutely nailed it. People that think a conversion chart is crazy talk, Tom actually considered doing it after Dr. Death beat Monolith. We have a conversion chart for females when they wrestle males right? Why? Because their card is designed to fight other girls. Just as LOW cards are designed to fight other LOW cards and COTG cards are designed to fight other COTG cards. . So it should be safe to assume you'd like a conversion chart for Frank Gotch or George Hackenschmidt since they are from an entirely different wrestling era as well? No. They are BOTH LOW wrestlers. The game is designed for all those guys to fight each other.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Nov 9, 2006 11:56:29 GMT -5
Somewhere in the world, Monolith has been beaten by Plethador...Better make a special chart to make sure THAT never happens again... Actually, the dice used for that match should be powdered and the dust scattered to the winds. I'm not a fan of Monolith, but that's crossing the lines of random chance. I should also note that I've never seen Plethador's card, but the point stands.
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Post by swarm on Nov 9, 2006 12:02:10 GMT -5
Crazy upsets can happen, its the luck of the roll. The Murdok loss to Anaxis was with the conversion chart in place. Oh wow! I thought that was pre-conversion chart days. Great job as always TM! actually it wasn't. That was me who used Murdok vs. Anaxis at GCON and when he lost, Tom came out with the female conversion chart.
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Post by gatekeeper on Nov 9, 2006 12:03:48 GMT -5
Oh wow! I thought that was pre-conversion chart days. Great job as always TM! actually it wasn't. That was me who used Murdok vs. Anaxis at GCON and when he lost, Tom came out with the female conversion chart. Aha! I thought I was losing my mind.
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Post by Mike M on Nov 9, 2006 12:04:56 GMT -5
So it should be safe to assume you'd like a conversion chart for Frank Gotch or George Hackenschmidt since they are from an entirely different wrestling era as well? Only makes sense...read one of my posts earlier. If you read one of my posts from earlier, you'd have an answer to that: At the end of the day, you can do what you want with the game. Ultimately, the cards use the same mechanics, but the creative team does NOT attempt to balance LOW with COTG- it's the equivilant of 2 different D&D realms- or maybe 2 different d20 game systems. Sure they work together from a mechanics standpoint (which allows you to run "dream" matches), but they're not balanced for playability together. I know that Tommy can appreciate this.... and I'm guessing that the rest of you can too. For the record, I'm not in favor of a legends conversion chart.... I just think that you have to understand that the cards are not designed to be played with together. The common game mechanics make it possible, but it is not intended/ play-tested. But once again, "it's up to you, Promoter".
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Post by swarm on Nov 9, 2006 12:07:17 GMT -5
It amazes me that Tom could actually be upset at the fact that Dr. Death beat Monolith. So much so that he'd have to introduce a conversion chart. I don't see why thats really a big deal. It's just a freakin game. Dr. Death pinned Monolith. OHMYGOD! Its the end of the world! Everybody freak out!! Some people take the game and it's characters way too seriously. no, some people don't take the game seriously enough. that's why there are people who can slap a +5 finisher on a piece of crap picture, call it a bootleg, and have no problem with it... do you think if some yo ho designed some crappy comic book character with bad art, and had him crush Spider-Man, Stan Lee would be cool with it? True artists take pride in their work...the amount of time and thought and detail that goes into Tom's creations is amazing...it's nothing short of brilliance... anyone can throw fuck against the wall and see if it sticks, but it takes a true professional to design something truly special.
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Post by Tournament Master on Nov 9, 2006 12:14:04 GMT -5
Tom was upset when a CPC wrestler, Stigma won the Canada Cup at G-con 2 years ago. Although its been proven that Stigma is not one of the top CPC cards, he just had a good run. I think this just goes to show the passion that Tom shows for the GWF and its place as the top wrestling promotion out there.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Nov 9, 2006 12:14:56 GMT -5
It amazes me that Tom could actually be upset at the fact that Dr. Death beat Monolith. So much so that he'd have to introduce a conversion chart. I don't see why thats really a big deal. It's just a freakin game. Dr. Death pinned Monolith. OHMYGOD! Its the end of the world! Everybody freak out!! Some people take the game and it's characters way too seriously. no, some people don't take the game seriously enough. that's why there are people who can slap a +5 finisher on a piece of crap picture, call it a bootleg, and have no problem with it... do you think if some yo ho designed some crappy comic book character with bad art, and had him crush Spider-Man, Stan Lee would be cool with it? True artists take pride in their work...the amount of time and thought and detail that goes into Tom's creations is amazing...it's nothing short of brilliance... anyone can throw [censored] against the wall and see if it sticks, but it takes a true professional to design something truly special. Yes, because clearly how people have fun on their own time should be strictly regulated. And on that (old and tired) note, I think this thread has outlived its purpose. Everyone back to your repsective corners to cool down. EDIT: Added quote, as TM slipped in as I was typing.
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