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Post by DUCE on Jan 7, 2008 0:12:51 GMT -5
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Post by habbalah on Jan 7, 2008 2:19:52 GMT -5
Isn't Tito already hanging out with all the other slubs on the Donald's show?
I keep seeing the comercial when I'm watching deal or no deal.
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Post by DUCE on Jan 7, 2008 7:29:22 GMT -5
Tito still has to accept the fight and if history shows itself once again Ryoto will be ducked once more.
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Post by habbalah on Jan 7, 2008 19:08:42 GMT -5
Well I heard Frank Shamrock was looking to fight Tito after his contract ran up in the ufc.
If I were Tito I think that seems like a lot more of an appealing fight. Hell as a fan I like that fight alot more. Frank wasn't able to hold of a Gracie from taking him down imagine what Tito would do?
With those two big mouths pushing the match it sounds like it would stand to make damn good money.
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Post by DUCE on Jan 7, 2008 21:49:28 GMT -5
I'd rather see Frank Shamrock vs. Jorge Santiago/Cung Le/Robbie Lawler. I can pop in UFC 22 to see Tito/Frank
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Post by habbalah on Jan 8, 2008 7:54:35 GMT -5
You clearly aren't paying attention to Frankie.
Before fighting Phil Baroni he said he's not just interested in fighting any one.. buy the people who will make the most money.
Duce... like it or not it makes for good business.
After seeing Cung Lee's last fight online.. I think Frank would just take him to the ground and beat him there. I have no desire to see the number one thorn in Dana White's side continue to shine. THIS MUST END! (LOL).
You think Shamrock will fight Santiago? BWAHHAHAHAH....*crys a little because it's so funny.*
It's a great fight on paper. But it's not what Frankie's looking for and we all know he's trying to sell tickets.
As for Robbie Lawler.. I think Frank's beneath him.
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Post by DUCE on Jan 8, 2008 9:53:10 GMT -5
I just said who I'd rather see him fight then a guy who saw the second coming and completely changed his life after Frank popped his endurance cherry.
Dana should try to book MATT LINDLAND versus FRANK SHAMROCK minor circuit promoters/world class 185 fighters. Who ever wins fights Dana so he can prove how good his supposed "amatuer boxing career" was against his "peers".
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Post by habbalah on Jan 8, 2008 17:01:24 GMT -5
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Post by Cosmic Crippler on Jan 8, 2008 17:29:40 GMT -5
Though not the most entertaining fighter you cant ignore Machida's skill and impeccable record. The guy deserves his chance. I hope Tito takes this one but wont blame him if he doesnt.
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Post by habbalah on Jan 8, 2008 17:39:29 GMT -5
Well in all honesty I don't think Machida needs Tito.
He could just as easily figtt Rashad, or Jardine and get recognized.
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Post by DUCE on Jan 9, 2008 0:54:28 GMT -5
Well in all honesty I don't think Machida needs Tito. He could just as easily figtt Rashad, or Jardine and get recognized. I agree but the idiot brigade wont... "HE NEEDS TO FIGHT AN EX CHAMPION LIKE TITO(!)" or something of that nature. It will give him more exposure to UFC's fickle fans(California)/porn stars/Orange County(sister lives there whole lot of beautifull/plastic people and Vietnamese ).Ryoto already won over the hardcore nosebleed section. With a Tito win he can take over the front row and the afterparty.
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Post by habbalah on Jan 9, 2008 16:27:17 GMT -5
I some how don't see Machida talking about after parties (LOL).
Who exactly consists of the idiot brigade any way? Sherdoggers? If I recall correctly I remember when every week there use to be a new Machida thread at Sherdog(due to his wins over Franklin and Penn).
The old guard fans? Since when did they ever takes Tito seriously for anything other than being a stepping stone and that was in his prime.
Feel free to smack me by I'm going to do a Jerry Seignfeld, "WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE!"
I just assumed he went from being the internet darling to the flavor of the month after beating Soku.
The general posts consist of “Well I don’t like him but he’s a force right now” Seem to be a common theme. Are you annoyed that such fans dying to turn on him the minute he loses?
Well duh.. They never wanted to be on his side or give him respect in the first place. Hell I don’t (at least after seeing him fight). I mean even at Cotg most people want to seem him fight to further advance the top 10. How many people here (besides Duce, feel free to jump in) would watch Machida fight.. Just for watching Machida fight. Lets say against, some random Ifl light heavy weight.
The only reason if I were to look forward to his fights were to be if he can prove himself against the next level of competition or not. If he can swell he keeps moving up, if not goodie I don’t have to pay attention to him anymore.
I’m not his fan. Hell I’ll say that right now. I dislike him... and not in a Cro Cop kinda way. At least when I hate Cro Cop... I look forward to his matches. It’s one thing to have fans hate you. It’s a whole other thing to have fans just not care.
And they only care about him because he’s winning right now.
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Post by DUCE on Jan 10, 2008 1:44:37 GMT -5
I see Machida as the Sonny Chiba of MMA. Some of his moves look bland but they have hidden trips and maddeningly quick counterstriking attempts. With a missed kick he swings a back hand a split second after the kick misses its mark. His overhand punches/leg trips. Good stuff. The idiot brigand is Hollywood. The chuck and larrys and Cindys and everybody loves Raymond. Those turds who get people to watch because they are watching. They are the kind that just remember the names ontop of the tickets. "OH, yeah Vitor Belfort I remember him! I wished he'd fight. Havn't seen him since the Tito fight.", "Whos Fedor? Is he really that good? Who beat him?" Those annoying fat cats. Winning them over=$$$. Hollywood. The superficial. Ryoto Machida after mauling Tito Ortiz and throwing some crocodile tears ala Leben can score himself one of the beautiful people of Orange County. Machida takes Lohan under his Karate wing teaching her the error of her ways in "THE FLASH OF THE SPOTLIGHT" Rated R Catch my meaning? Rashad had his chance but he lost that fight in everyone's eyes but the judges. Ryoto knocking out Tito with a round house kick making Chi noises (WAHAAHAAAA-oooooo)) instant new Chuck Norris/Rock level star able to take all of Randy's parts in Hollywood.
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Post by habbalah on Jan 10, 2008 5:55:38 GMT -5
You mean like Vanilla ice (LOL). God I recall when the ufc use to show he was at the show.
Duce I've never talked to a mma fan who was like "CHUCK NORRIS IS IN THE CROWD! OH MAN GOTTA GET THIS PPV!"
Unless Fedor is in the front row talking with Dana White.. i don't care about the crowd. it sucks up tv time and the ufc has been cutting back on it lately.
instant new Chuck Norris/Rock level star
You called me a sherdogger in the other thread and you put Chuck Norris in the same league as the Rock? *Laughs so loud I come off sounding like Snoopie* Maybe back in the day.
You need sleep don't cha?
You know what fans tweak me off Duce? You know all those empty seats before the big matches come on? Those ones.
If I had tickets to a mma show my butt would be in my seat for all the matches (minus bathroom break, and maybe a snack).
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Post by DUCE on Jan 10, 2008 9:24:51 GMT -5
You mean like Vanilla ice (LOL). God I recall when the ufc use to show he was at the show. Duce I've never talked to a mma fan who was like "CHUCK NORRIS IS IN THE CROWD! OH MAN GOTTA GET THIS PPV!" Unless Fedor is in the front row talking with Dana White.. i don't care about the crowd. it sucks up tv time and the ufc has been cutting back on it lately. instant new Chuck Norris/Rock level star You called me a sherdogger in the other thread and you put Chuck Norris in the same league as the Rock? *Laughs so loud I come off sounding like Snoopie* Maybe back in the day. You need sleep don't cha? You know what fans tweak me off Duce? You know all those empty seats before the big matches come on? Those ones. If I had tickets to a mma show my butt would be in my seat for all the matches (minus bathroom break, and maybe a snack). Lemme 'splain it better for ya. Jenna Jameson is a icon for female pornostars. I don't think this is the right place to send links out about what types of women are involved in pron but a goodmajority of them want to be her. Her at an event doesn't get PPV buys as much as it sells tickets. Tickets for the front rows can be hiked up beyond 500$ dollar level at some events. The posh crowd also attracts hollywood agents and casting directors. Pitch men. Get richer now people. Its not your MMA friends saying "CHUCK NORRIS doesn't push up he pushing the world down! Hey, lets buy this PPV cause Chuck is gonna be there. Its them saying Machida is being cast in the "ENTER THE DRAGON" remake! Dude, lets go see it at the theatres!" (LOL pointless rant below! ;D ) I'd be right there with you with my butt in a seat sans the fact that I don't live in Vegas, am perfectly happy where I am at, and I hate people screaming in my ears. The only time I ever went to a Pro Wrestling event(not many in WA) was in 1998 and I nearly lost it when this dude started yelling like a maniac about how Curt Henning liked cocks. Then this old chick behind me blew out her lungs( and my ears) yelling at the Outsiders to "SHUUUUUT UPPPPPP!" Now I know its not the same but I can imagine all the dumb drunk bad boy eyed tats wanting to pick a fight with whomever they feel threatened by. Like Koppenhaver getting his crocodile tears ready for the cops after he sucker punches me. ;D Or a 400 pound scene girl wanting to stomp my face in because I wouldn't slip her the tongue. "PUT EM A BODY BAAAAAG!" Oh lords... whatI wouldn't give for a Bruce Lee or Sonny Chiba 70s movie with those two examples getting destroyed. Wait what I was talking about... oh yeah... California's big wigs like Tito Ortiz and Jenna Jameson. They even rate paparazzi! Machida just needs to cause a scene while they are around and BAM instant popularity points. (Rock>Chuck Norris sure I agree with that but... Chuck Norris 1970s>Dwayne Johnson)
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Post by habbalah on Jan 10, 2008 22:31:53 GMT -5
Yep he needs sleep. I saw a wrestling event back in the day and the only fight I recall was Demolition taking on the bulldogs (live). I loved it. But hay I was a little kid.
Would the cage (if i went to the show) ubstruct my fan sight of the fight? Looks like it might. To my total shame I've never seen a mma event live.
If Machida makes it big, it'll be because he earned it. Certain people blow up to a certain level and it's not always because of who they beat.
Who knows if he would fought Forrest back in the day like he was suppose to he might have already.
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Post by DUCE on Jan 11, 2008 2:42:38 GMT -5
Yep he needs sleep. I saw a wrestling event back in the day and the only fight I recall was Demolition taking on the bulldogs (live). I loved it. But hay I was a little kid. Would the cage (if i went to the show) ubstruct my fan sight of the fight? Looks like it might. To my total shame I've never seen a mma event live. If Machida makes it big, it'll be because he earned it. Certain people blow up to a certain level and it's not always because of who they beat. Who knows if he would fought Forrest back in the day like he was suppose to he might have already. Its not like you live in Vegas? Crummy bingo hall events usually don't get much at the gate because no can see shoot. Sorry Chuck Norris is the real deal and Dwayne Johnson is a professional wrestler.
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Post by habbalah on Jan 12, 2008 0:55:59 GMT -5
Yes because Chuck Norris big claim to fame was having Bruce lee brake his arm while filming a movie when he tryed to get all buck with a real fighter.
Chuck is an old man. He might even be older than Ric Flair. Let the fan dumb die.
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Post by DUCE on Jan 12, 2008 2:52:09 GMT -5
Yes because Chuck Norris big claim to fame was having Bruce lee brake his arm while filming a movie when he tryed to get all buck with a real fighter. Chuck is an old man. He might even be older than Ric Flair. Let the fan dumb die. You showed me your knowledge of Chuck Norris and the 70s Martial Arts boom. Bleh... 70s Martial Arts boom>Attitude era. I can keep doing them all night and you... will just say "OMG, he needs sleep! Die! Your god blahblahblah!" Read something that wasn't written in the past three years. Bart Gun is your Attitude era toughman contest winner. (that means LOL FAIL) You don't know what your talking about. Dwayne Johnson is not a fighter.
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Post by habbalah on Jan 12, 2008 14:03:35 GMT -5
You know Duce say what you will about me, but leave pictures of your mom out of this. A retired professional girl like her has had enough problems in her life than to have some snot nosed little punk posting her in a unrelated thread.
(There's a passing grade for yah slappy). What is it with you? Some kind of need to argue trivia Knowledge where you have to tighten your neck tie, adjust your pucket protecter, and prove to me your a bigger dork at everything you do?
Duce- the one upper.
Hay Duce.. I don't want to argue about Chuck. I bet back in the day you were on of those people who use to call Rock Flex on wrestling boards and no Rock's not a real fighter. Duh. Really?
Oh my God Duce.. maybe I'll pee my pants if you tell me wrestling isn't real next.
(watch, he'll argue with me the difference between a nerd in a dork next).
Side note I really could have gone in multiple directions with that picture but.. I mean really it gave so many openings. 1 "Oh look I always new he was a big pu$$y" but than i wasn't sure it was a cat? It could been the worlds fattest ferret. 2 Oh look another gay guy posting pictures of his cat 3 Oh look another gay guy asking his cats opinion on what he thinks of my posts. The third one left to many questions. Like what is the cats name? What did he think? Is it to meows for a failing grade? How do I know Duce didn't keep petting him to get the second meow? (Now that's not enough sleep lol).
But being the good catholic I am I went with the moral high road and went with his mom (I am family men) But let's get off of Duce's mom (insert cheap shot).
2 points if you can guess where I stole this line from.
Be honest Duce, you like it better this way. No peace in our time. (I wonder if he's smart enough not to admit it if he does know).
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