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Post by DUCE on Nov 14, 2007 20:39:16 GMT -5
For once I am happy with UFC's current matchmaking. If only through rumors. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou is rumored to have signed with the UFC and to be on the UFC 79 card. The African Assassin is going to be rumored to be lined up to fight Ryoto Machida. (http://www.ufcdaily.com/2007/11/13/rumor-update-sokoudjou-vs-machida-at-ufc-79/) Ryoto vs. Sokoudjou has more impact to any top ten rankings then Bisping vs. Evans and Alexander vs. Silva. Props to Joe Silva for this; Chuck vs. WandEven though people are hyping it as whoever wins is the best EVAH at 205... I can't help but see the arguments being made about Wand's state after that brutal knockout from Cro Cop and Chuck being over the hill. It what we wanted to see. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou vs. Ryoto MachidaThis fight confuses me. Who do I root for? Is this actually happens it should very entertaining. Sokoudjou wins he is on the map in UFCland and maintains his position on all the IMMAC top tens and Dana White can can Machida like he wants to. Ryoto Machida wins... then I still see Dana White trying to bury Machida. Eitherway we win especially if this entertains the xyience drinkers out there. Houston Alexander vs. Thiago SilvaThis is the fight that will put Houston over and should give him a big name in his next fight. If Thiago wins this he will make alot of people cry and start a "war wagon". Bisping vs. EvansEvans is a good fighter. Bisping is unproven and was beaten by Hamill. I don't buy this making a top five fighter in the this stacked division( Dana's hype). I don't think Evans should get a title shot for this even if he plows through Bisping. If Bisping wins... I'll scrape my jaw off the floor and just shake my head. I wonder what Joe will do with Dan Henderson, Tito Ortiz, Shogun, Forrest, Jardine, and Matt Hamill among others.
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Post by dukedave on Nov 14, 2007 20:44:29 GMT -5
WAR Sokoudjou!!!!!
A lot of TUF UFC fans will think he's just a non-English speaking foreigner until he gives an interview. He is actually pretty well spoken and likable.
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Post by DUCE on Nov 15, 2007 16:29:56 GMT -5
I am thinking Babalu, Sokoudjou, and Machida all deserve an appeciation thread
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Post by DUCE on Nov 15, 2007 16:35:31 GMT -5
www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=5076&zoneid=2somewhat offical now that the afican assassin is now signed to a UFC contract “Sokoudjou is an explosive athlete with heavy hands and great judo who is coming off huge back-to-back knockout wins over two top ten guys in Ricardo Arona and Antonio Rogerio Nogueira,” said UFC president Dana White. “Bringing him in just makes the stacked 205-pound division even stronger, and there are endless great match-ups for him here in the UFC.” Said Machida of the fight, “I know Sokoudjou doesn’t have a lot of fights, but the fights he’s had are big, and he has beaten some very big names in this sport. I think this is going to be a great fight, and I am looking forward to winning this fight, and to moving on and fighting for the UFC title.”
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Post by habbalah on Nov 21, 2007 20:31:33 GMT -5
So your saying the ufc should keep Machida?
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Post by DUCE on Nov 22, 2007 11:39:30 GMT -5
So your saying they shouldn't? One day people will want to rewatch his fights. They may seem dull but so did Ali vs. Inoki. Now that match is anything but. (of course all relative to my opinion) www.asahi-net.or.jp/~YF7M-ON/ekakunen.html
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Post by habbalah on Nov 22, 2007 13:53:06 GMT -5
Be fair duce, Pride would have never put up with Machida's dull ness. How many yellows do you think he'd have by now?
I don't really have a huge problem with him staying... than again I'm fine with him going. The ufc will have lost far better than his like.
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Post by DUCE on Nov 23, 2007 3:02:10 GMT -5
Machida is Inoki's boy from Bom-Ba-Ye 2003 - Inoki Festival, jungle fighting, and K-1. Put him against the top five UFC fighters and see how dull he is. Dana-Joel Silva are afraid of what he might do. Competition breed excellence and we have not see the type to truely bring it all out of Machida. I'd put Machida in front of a runaway Alexander. I'd put Machida against Shogun. I'd put Machida against the Safari Punch( yeah they are doing that). UFC wants to use Machida one last time and not reup his contract thats fine he has a HUGE star as his mentor in Antonio Inoki and he will rebound elsewhere and Dana will cry "$#@# MACHIDA SUCKS!!!!" His dull fights are due to matchmaking.
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Post by habbalah on Nov 23, 2007 18:18:34 GMT -5
He reminds me of Pedro. He could be exciting with the right fighter. Accept... at least Pedro was able to prove that from time to time.
The ufc picked him up.. and your already trying to make Dana White a nazi for not giving Machida a main event.
What if Machida did fight the top level guys and still was dull as a butter Knifer? Would be okay to fire him than or would you turn around and call White a moron for putting himself in a dangerous situation?
Internet fans with their brilliant ideas never seem to like to come out and be held for accountable for them when ever a promotor does something of the like and it fails.
And by the way Duce Machida does suck, he's just not a loser. I've seen clips of Machida's old matches... those were really dull. I could care less if he Knocked out Fedor. It would be painful to watch.
Don't get me wrong... I do want to know who the best is.... but not at the expanse of putting fans to sleep.
Be honest you'd put a game Ninja in front of Alexander. Machida's not a draw. Dana is doing die hard fans a huge favor just by giving this guy a job. Does uncle Dana get his thanks? Certainly not.
Dana could have just as easily ignored this guy. Admit he sucks? Are your crazy... he'd have to admit he existed.
If he didn't work at the ufc he'd be some slub on strike force most likely beating up people like Vernon Tiger White.
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Post by DUCE on Nov 24, 2007 0:34:03 GMT -5
internet fans like yourself and everyone else on this board. Quit the generalizing its condescending. Your not above anybody else here because you have an opinion also.
Uncle Dana What!? I am not related to that expletive deleted. Unless you are?
Giving him a job WFA package deal. Dana bought WFA to get Rampage's contract with that came everyone else under WFA contract. Ryoto had a nice contract that UFC was entitled to pay out. Joel Silva took over and started using him.
I do want to know who the best is Then lets match them up. If the safari punch knocks out Ryoto in an exciting match then all will be forgotten due to the lame logic "your only good as your last fight." If Ryoto wins a decision and comes out yet again unscaved from another MMA match let see Rampage versus Ryoto. NOT RAMPAGE VS. COUTURE. Couture should not be enabled to duck Nogueira and suck up another title match.Ryoto's defense could be the next big step in MMA.
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Post by habbalah on Nov 24, 2007 2:00:07 GMT -5
One, You right I am a stupid internet fan. Who's putting myself above?
Two I call him uncle Dana as a gimick. (If you ever seen Mick Foley call Erick Bishoff uncle Erick you'd get the joke).
Three....
Wow your a slave to the top ten. *Just sorta shakes his head*. Elite through and through.
Is this Rampage vs Couture thing some net rumor? If.... IFFFFFFFFF it's true....
What would get Randy the most notice? Fighting Nog or Rampage? Your average UFC fan barely knows who Nog is.
How come Wanderlei can chase after Forrest for beating Shogun for revenge sake... But Randy can't fight Page for beating Dan? Your objectivity as always is amazing. (sarcasm).
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Post by DUCE on Nov 24, 2007 2:08:15 GMT -5
One, You right I am a stupid internet fan. Who's putting myself above? Two I call him uncle Dana as a gimick. (If you ever seen Mick Foley call Erick Bishoff uncle Erick you'd get the joke). Three.... Wow your a slave to the top ten. *Just sorta shakes his head*. Elite through and through. Is this Rampage vs Couture thing some net rumor? If.... IFFFFFFFFF it's true.... What would get Randy the most notice? Fighting Nog or Rampage? Your average UFC fan barely knows who Nog is. How come Wanderlei can chase after Forrest for beating Shogun for revenge sake... But Randy can't fight Page for beating Dan? Your objectivity as always is amazing. (sarcasm). Or uncle fester... but I am bald to so I can't talk BTW your Pride-UFC counter failed for Ryoto and this "well gave him a job" failed so this elite talk could get the monsoon response of
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Post by DUCE on Nov 24, 2007 2:10:37 GMT -5
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Post by habbalah on Nov 24, 2007 15:05:38 GMT -5
Ah Duce... you've been a Elite Pride fan from the very first time I saw you on Cotg.
I recall when you use to say "Look, out Randy and Chuck.. NINJA IS COMING TO THE UFC!"
NINJA!.... OF all GOD DAMN PEOPLE IS GOING TO CLEAN UP THE UFC. No I Didn't fail Duce I passed with flying colors.
WAIT! Which fight would you rather see if you can only see one? Randy vs. Nog or Randy vs. Rampage?
Where the hell did you get your info this fight is even happening?
Honestly I think I'd rather have Nog vs Randy. I hate Page and the last thing I want to see is this slack jawed hick beat my favorite fighter. There's no real shame in Nog beating Randy.... if he can.
As for failed.. you ignore everything in the arguement you can to make your responces easy.
What would it take for Dana White to Fire Machida with you b(censored)ing about him. you didn't answer because you want to whine no matter what in case it happened.
When I say slave to the top ten, your more interested in seeing "who's the best off mma" over good mma fights.
I'll give you an example. If Chuck Liddel pulled out of fighting Wanderlei .... and for what ever reason Dana White was able to replace Chuck with Igor from Pride....
That would be a entertaining match. But I'd bet because Igor hasn't been in the top ten for years... you'd call it a giant waste of time. There that's what I'm talking about.
I'm still shocked your able to go on about Pride like you did when Griffin of all people beat your mma mini god Shogun. With what he called "Not even that good of a choke"
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Post by DUCE on Nov 25, 2007 5:25:14 GMT -5
Since you've went name calling because of your failure to cunter a point. Your an iconoclast. A person who attacks settled beliefs or institutions. Uh, once a-gain. Here is the link. www.ufcdaily.com/2007/11/20/white-misses-meeting-with-couture/Hey WATCH NINJA vs. Rampage and chirp about how weak that two year old statement is. Ninja is no nugget. Neither is Robbie Lawler. You just smeer some people that YOU DON'T consider ELITE. Making your comment above sound about as stupid as it is. Hypocritical, to say the least. As far as match making critique goes no @#$*& sherlock. I've been a COTG promoter since 1993. I've kind of been doing it hobby wise 15ish years. Igor Vovchanchyn is a icon in vale tudo and so is Wanderlei Silva. Good match but why do I want to see that in the UFC? Unless its part of a tournament. What is this Entertainment Championship Fighting? In your own words you want to see the best. I'm still shockedYou've flopped Ryoto Machida fighting technique into a bash about how you HATE PRIDE. Good for you. Drink some more of Dana White's xyience. Instead of bashing hundreds of fighters because you hate a country of people, think they all used steriods, are in love with Andrei Arlovski, and stalking Chris Leben you can grow out of it and just be an MMA fan and get off YOUR high horse. Where is my Pride argument? You want to go into another thread and debate UFC-Pride?
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Post by dukedave on Nov 25, 2007 8:26:53 GMT -5
Why don't you two get a room so you can work out all this sexual tension you have for each other?
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Post by DUCE on Nov 25, 2007 15:57:48 GMT -5
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