Momentum

[pravusdeus]

I started this in another topic but I thought I would do a poll on this and see what other people thought.

Now this is a game played with dice and anything can happen, but is there such as a superstar picking up momentum. By this what I am suggesting is ...

If a wrestler is properly booked, using my CPC champion Wraith as a perfect example, could a wrestler gain momentum and actually develop a hot streak of wins over a period of time.

What I did with Wraith was start a "career ender" gimmick, I would throw jobbers at him to basically destroy and use as an explanation to them leaving. This really built up Wraith's character. He soon would take on bigger and better opponents and nearly do the same. He built this momentum right up to the title and ended Paragons career and took the title. Now the guy is just an unstoppable beast.

Another example right now is Painmaster ... I booked a certain way to build him up through the ranks. The tag division, the IP division and eventually to the Galaxian title ... Painmaster just kept winning, he hit MegaTournament and easily rolled right through the 64 man bracket and won.

I find this happens a lot, if properly booked you can give a wrestler momentum and they can go on to a streak of victories without being defeated. What do you think? In a game that relies on dice and chance, is there such a thing as a character being able to gain momentum and take over fate?

[swarm]

Yeah I think so.

[gwffantrav]

I dont' see how it exists, but there's no doubt it does. Must be those magical Filsinger dice.

[pikemojo]

I will be the first to say no. Obviously we all know that because of the randomness of the dice there can be no such thing as a true hot streak unless the booking makes it happen. I have never had it happen in LOW. Tons of my wrestlers have trouble moving above 60% wins. It is really kind of annoying. There are only a couple wrestlers that have done exceptionally well. Mil Mascaras, LOD, and Nick Bockwinkel. George hackenschmidt is starting to look like he could be like that but we will have to see.

[thefamoustommyz]

I would say yes, and someone has ruined the mojo on Pikemojo's dice.

For me, I still only use the dice that came with the first set I ordered. And I plan on using only those indefinitely. Those two dice know what's best for my fed, even when I don't.

[GalactiKing]

There's definitely momentum. I've had unlikely guys go on winning streaks (DragonMaster in 2106, Dreadnaught's death card among others)

[Thad Killian]

I know that there seems like momentum...terminus was unbeatable when he first entered the fed and held the IP title for almost six months...I stopped playing for a few eeks and then old scaly couldn't get a win for the next six...hmmm...

[rockajabroney]

I will say yes, only because, sometimes, it's not always the dice either! Like Chaos has excellent stats (when the Alpha Stone is glowing) and that can help win more matches. I mean, even if a wrestler still loses a match here and there, it doesn't mean his momentum has stopped.

When I was using Spike, he'd lose one match, but then bounce back and win 6! then maybe lose one, then win a bunch again!

I've played a bunch of different types of dice games, and in all of them, I've had streaks good and bad, so momentum does exist, as crazy as it sounds!

[Tongsoon of Cygnus]

Well, we've all seen wrestlers in both the GWF and LWF go into losing slumps. If that's the case, then there has to be momentum in the game. I see it briefly right now (ironically, in my fed, Ursa Major seems to be picking up some momentum!), but mostly when they go into a losing slump. For my GWF, the big slump has to be Bishop Hell, who has lost to people like Raven, Lance AtLas, and Blazing Skull, just to name a few.

So, I do believe momentum exists in even the most random of games. If there's such thing as a slump, then there has to be momentum. The pendulum swings both ways, even in the GWF/LWF.

[DZ SCULY]

I agree about the momentum. It does seem that certain guys get hot and others cold. In 2090, both Death Masque and Splatter were on losing streaks in singles matches. So I teamed them up and they won the I-P tag title and had 18 successful title defenses before finally losing to Beasts of Burden. After that they never regained the belts and lost most of their matches afterward, but for a 37 card span were unbeatable.

[Pete Beck]

I am sure there is momentum...those dice just fall that way sometimes for a guy...everytime...or darn near. Stats do play a part, but it is odd how a character can get on a roll in this game, which is based on randomality (did i just make that word up??)...

It is odd, but it happens.

[jester]

YES !!!

Steele Freak

14 months GWF Hwt. Champion (real time)
68 cards

Just beat EndGame and Bloodline back to back. He barely escaped EndGame with a HUGE late comeback surprise win and then just plain squashed Bloodline.

HOW ?!

I'm playing no favorites and putting him against top compition and he will not deop his belt.

Steele Freak should get an update and call him Juggernaught because he is unstoppable.

But for some of you I bet he can't buy a win.

[Tom]

I believe in momentum too, both during the match and for wrestlers who are hot or cold. I don't believe dice rolls are entirely random but that there are forces in the universe that transcend physical laws. If you've ever read stuff like String Theory in physics you'd quickly realize that the laws of nature were made to be broken.

[Pete Beck]

savvas said:

If you've ever read stuff like String Theory in physics you'd quickly realize that the laws of nature were made to be broken.

I shouldn't be surprised, but i never thought i would see "String Theory" mentioned on this board...

Then again our fearless leader is a Professor...

[David Bazzy Basnett]

Anything can happen , if you let it happen . That is what makes the COTG games so great and different from the rest .

[neil]

tom,
whats up..
neil

[canadianpittbull]

I believe there is momentum and I leave it totally to fate when it comes to the rolling of the dice. Recently Buff Bagwell has started to make a name for himself in my fed since his first bunch of matches were pretty much squashes and I was almost looking at taking him off of my main program and send him to the territories. But he has come through and might end up become a champion. I also see this as the brass having high hopes for the wrestler in question and getting his "push" naturally without adding points or making it too "scripted".

Bundy was another that I though was done for as he went from kicking some major butt to losing then brought his game back up and we will see if he can capture the SLWF Heavyweight gold this Sunday.

Either way it all comes down to the roll of the dice!

[caseyjonesatwork]

Pulsar in 2087 is doing this. He's beaten both Gladiators in singles, Massif, and Exo King. He's now the "Giant Killer" of the GWF. He'll get a title shot soon.