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Post by gatekeeper on Apr 25, 2006 22:12:06 GMT -5
Wait...haven't gas prices spiked in correlation with rising violence in Iraq? I distinctly remember tons of angry customers wondering why gas was going up when we had just taken over an oil rich country. I understand the reasoning for going to war 1).because all intel suggested that Hussein had WMDs and 2). oil interest. I don't understand why we haven't helped ourselves to some of that crude. My argument was that you can't claim that Bush made all this stuff up when so many others on both sides of the political spectrum have said the same thing and oil is worth fighting for, because of it's place in our economy AND our way of life. To answer, your #1 - they said there was an error in the intelligence because they stated that Hussein had these multiple factories producing WMD's and they didn't find one shred of evidence to back that up. #2 - I don't think Bush made it up, I think his people gave him bad info. And the economy doesn't have to be crude oil -based. There's a report out that Brazil doesn't use oil in its heavy machinery. Freaking Brazil figured it out, so the US shouldn't be too far behind. The fact is that there is a lot of Middle Eastern money involved in the US oil companies. So, they are scratching each other's backs in this whole thing.
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Post by Tournament Master on Apr 26, 2006 1:05:39 GMT -5
Error in intelligence in the Bush camp?...OK I won't go there. ;D
Glad we are all in agreement that this is all about oil interests. Is it worth going to war for...I don't know. It is odd though that prices go up whenever we are involved there though...seems counterproductive, but the economics might have been swinging that way anyway.
I hope we do start looking at alternative fuel sources, because the oil isn't going to last forever. Bush addressed it in the State of the Union, which was nice to hear, but I'm not sure its in the best interest of his big supporters, so I am not overly hopeful that big changes will come right away.
Didn't know that about Brazil. Very cool.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Apr 26, 2006 12:51:14 GMT -5
SUPPOSEDLY the problem with the current gas prices is companies trying to switch to corn-based fuel, and realizing that a mssive changeover on the fly is easier said than done, leaving supply problems without a drop in demand...thus, skyrocketing fuel prices.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Apr 26, 2006 13:17:28 GMT -5
SUPPOSEDLY the problem with the current gas prices is companies trying to switch to corn-based fuel, and realizing that a mssive changeover on the fly is easier said than done, leaving supply problems without a drop in demand...thus, skyrocketing fuel prices. Correct. It has absolutely nothing to do with the rampant popularity of SUVs and other woefully inefficent vehicles causing a dramatic increase in demand of what is unquestionably a finite resource. Now go out there and be good consumers. You're not doing anything wrong -- it's all the gas companies' fault. Seriously, though, the ethanol thing is the reason some areas are currently experiencing shortages, but that's still not a justified explanation for why prices have been going insane for nearly two years now. Thankfully our President has decided to step in before his approval rating drops to 25% and none of his buddies get re-elected -- er, I mean before the prices really get outrageous. Sorry, left my cynicism on there for a second.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Apr 26, 2006 14:17:01 GMT -5
I DID say "supposedly"...=)
And I have no doubt that's part of the problem. Maybe even a big part.
But when you factor in that the problem itself has been ignored for DECADES and industry is only NOW making any effort to alleviate the problem, well, it's liking waiting until your house is almost burnt to the ground, then calling the fire department and blaming their response time on you losing everything.
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Post by GrumpyBigBee on May 4, 2006 13:36:23 GMT -5
Am I missing something??? Granted, I've never drank, did drugs, smoked....Is it because I've missed out participating in the wonderful world of drugs? I may be way off base, but I really think we're in bizzarro world. I can't understand any of this logic. Sighhhhhh To answer your questions: Yes you missed out and you should have done drugs... no I am just kidding. =) But yes, Kentucky and most the states to the left, or right depending on the map you are looking at, of NC are very Bizzarro worlds.
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