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Post by gatekeeper on Dec 27, 2007 0:05:15 GMT -5
You need to stop because you are making assumptions that people called you something that they didn't. Chill dude. You are just wrong. You musn't assume you know what's happening here when you don't. I was not personally attacked when I first posted. I was objecting to anyone being personally attacked. So you see those who think I just can't stand to be criticized and am acting like a baby because of it don't know what's going on either. I've read all the posts. Just chill. Swarm can say whatever he wants. You don't have to LIKE how he says it, but as long as he doesn't break any of the rules, then you do have to DEAL with it.
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Post by LWPD on Dec 27, 2007 7:44:30 GMT -5
These boards aren't what I thought they would be and very few people except me seem to care. Oh it is a great place to find ideas and to exchange wrestlers, charts and matches, but the civility displayed is below average compared to other boards on other gaming topics. Name calling and rudeness isn't only tolerated, but it is actually defended. I think the best plan for me is to just skim the boards looking for new things I can download and occasionally putting up some myself. But as far as taking part in discussions here, I don't believe it to be an enjoyable experience. Rickert You seem like an intelligent well meaning person and I can understand your simple ideal of wanting to see people converse respectfully with one another. Obviously you have the power to read selectively and reward your time, thought and interactions to only that which you perceive to have value while ignoring whatever doesn't. The issue of general message board civility has been discussed in the past and was once so contentious among such a large number of people that an attempt was made to create a new 'well policed' message board that focused on the ideal of 'respect in discourse' and in theory 'universal civility'. If we look back and learn from it's execution from theory into practice...with the 'best of intentions' that board saw an affiliated 'friendly chat room' removed in disgust, saw countless pilgrims who initially labeled the board a 'paradise' grow disenfranchised to the extent that they deleted their accounts in mass...and ultimately saw the board owner himself delete the entire thing. The lesson to learn is that regardless of the posting environment 'negativity'...the bane of civil discourse...will always exist in cyber space because it's a human perception. Like anything your Internet experience is what you make of it. We can't force our ideals on others and attempting to do so will rightfully be met with backlash. Most of the problems that occur online are a self inflicted result of spending an inordinate amount of time in a given medium. For something like a hobby board on a pro wres card game...given all the alternatives life has to offer...anything beyond 10-15 minutes a day total probably isn't very healthy. I rarely hit beyond that daily mark...but probably have more 'sticked' contributions and posts that end with 'thank you' follow ups than anyone here. My advice is to strive to showcase your ideals by being a leader that contributes positively and productively to the enjoyment others get out of the best parts of this shared hobby...in the long run the rest is nonsense that's easily forgotten. Be good to yourself and enjoy the board for what it is.
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Post by rickert on Dec 27, 2007 8:14:18 GMT -5
I have already done all that I intend to do in this matter. I know I can't force anybody to do anything and those who can on this board have chosen not to, thus setting the tone for the entire place. It is not a tone that I enjoy or wish to subjugate myself to. Since it can crop up in any thread about virtually any topic, I can't avoid it either.
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Post by behindthebook on Dec 27, 2007 8:16:29 GMT -5
For the record, and not to be construed as a defense of negativity, but by definition, a negative statement directed at a group is not a "personal" attack. Personal (Adjective): relating to, directed to, or intended for a particular person That's from Random House. A comment along the lines of "people from Texas are all mouth-breathing inbreed yokels", while certainly objectionable, is not a personal attack against say me. It would instead be better described as a "communal" attack. But I doubt that term will gain much traction. Anyway, that’s my two cents worth. Otherwise, I would say that LWPD has a pretty good take on things.
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