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Post by gamemaster on Jan 12, 2006 10:52:21 GMT -5
I got the Shadowrun book for christmas and just got around to reading it now. I played a little 3rd edition and it looks like they streamlined alot of the more confusing stuff for the better of the game. For those of you who dont know the game is set in 2070 and basically takes DnD mythology and slaps it in a futuristic setting where coporations have taken over and you are a Shadowrunner. A Shadowrunner is basically a hired merc working both sides of the fence for corporations and whoever else will pay. Wondering if anyone else has played this cyberpunk classic in past incarnations.
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Post by Darth Turkish on Jan 12, 2006 17:47:54 GMT -5
Is it on the d20 system yet?
I tried to play Shadowrun a few years ago. My two friends and I, all who had experince with 1st and 2nd ed. DnD, Warhammer, Marvel, DC, CotG (and various video games and card games and such) and a few other traditional RPG games, could not figure out how to do combat. We sat there for five hours trying to figure it out and could not. It was quite frustrating beacuse it looked like a really cool game. There were way too many die rolls and combat modifiers, if I remember correctly.
We now joke that you had to roll 3 six siders and get above a twelve just to tie your shoes in that game.
I hope your experience will be much better than mine.
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Post by CynthiaCM on Jan 12, 2006 19:19:18 GMT -5
Shadowrun 4th edition isn't D20 yet (thank goodness), but it sports a very different type of system than the previous editions, thanks to the folks at FanPro (some of which are friends of mine, so I could be biased).
Anyway, the rules are a LOT simpler than they used to be. So if you weren't happy with 3rd edition, which was a mess, give 4th edition a try.
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Post by MarkusV on Jan 12, 2006 19:48:09 GMT -5
I used to "try" to play the earlier editions of Shadowrun as I really loved the cyber-fantasy feel of it, but the rules were a total headache. I am glad that they have been streamlined. Speaking of Shadowrun, if you manage to get your hands on some of the old paperback novels they are a pretty good read.
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Post by Darth Turkish on Jan 13, 2006 18:49:10 GMT -5
Cynthia, why so down on d20? I like how things seem pretty compatible across genres.
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Post by CynthiaCM on Jan 13, 2006 21:59:06 GMT -5
It's not that I'm down on D20, it's just that one flavor doesn't fit all tastes. D20 is a pretty decent system, but it doesn't work for everything IMO.
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Post by gamemaster on Jan 13, 2006 22:48:41 GMT -5
Yeah the new combat doesnt seem that different from the last edition just a bit better written. I dont hate d20 rules either but ive played it for so long that this is a nice change of pace. One thing is for sure you could definetly learn to play d20 alot easier then shadowrun. I think the combat is a bit slower just because there are alot of modifiers but the detail is what I really like about it. There are different rules for both melee and ranged combat. I have read the combat chapter a couple of times and once that sunk in the whole book just made sense. I havent played yet because im gonna have to be the GM but thats why im the Gamemaster!
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Post by Darth Turkish on Jan 14, 2006 11:40:23 GMT -5
Hmm, I really like the d20 system because things are relatively the same across genres, so it wouldnot be hard to have a Wookiee in a DnD campaign or a Minotaur that is a Jedi or Superhero.
but my main comparsion is from the clunky rules system of Heroclix to Star Wars Miniature' s d20.
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IPPON!!