Ranking system

[sickman]

**updated version**

To qualify for the rankings; take the number of total matches and divide by the number of total competitors. The number you come up with is how many matches a wrestler would have to compete in to qualify. (EX. 538 total single matches divided by 28 competittors=19 matches a wrestler needs to qualify) This prevents rookies or wrestlers that haven't had as many matches from getting into the rankings based on a perfect record after 1 or 2 matches.

Rankings are figured after every 3 month period.

At the beginning of a new year, half of a wrestlers exsisting point total is carried over. If a wrestler was not qualified to be ranked, his points are cut in half twice. For instance, a 40 would become a 10 instead of a 20. Records are reset.

100%=100
95%-99.9%=95
90%-94.9%=90
85%-89.9%=85
80%-84.9%=80
75%-79.9%=75
70%-74.9%=70
65%-69.9%=65
60%-64.9%=60
55%-59.9%=55
50%-54.9%=50
45%-49.9%=35
40%-44.9%=30
35%-39.9%=25
30%-34.9%=20
25%-29.9%=15
20%-24.9%=10
15%-19.9%=8
10%-14.9%=5
0%-9.9%=1

**Every 10 wins= 10 points
**Every 10 losses= -5 points
**GWF Championship won= 50 points
**GWF Championship defended successfully= 25 points
**GWF Championship lost= -30 points
**Intergalactic Championship won= 30 points
**Intergalactic Championship defended successfully= 20 points
**I.G. Championship lost= -20 points
**GWF Tag Team Titles won= 50 points
**GWF Tag Team Titles defended successfully= 25 points
**GWF Tag Team Titles Lost= -30 points
**GWF Womens Title won= 50 points
**GWF Womens Title defended successfully= 25 points
**GWF Womens Title lost= -30 points

**Outside the top 15 w/win vs. top 10= +10 pts
**Inside the top 10 w/loss vs. Bottom 15= -10 pts



Explanation: Under my old system; a wrestler recieved points just for winning. Well; if said wrestler had more matches than anyone else, of course he/she had a chance to secure more points than anyone else. Hopefully this system is "weighted" more for quality than quantity.

Of course feedback is appreciated.

[LWPD]

Looks good Sickman74. I like how you take success longevity into account in your system. I could see charting an 'evaluation snapshot' of peaks and valleys to mark major moments in a given wrestler's career.

Below is a different career ranking system from the COTGLegends Yahoo Group which may make for a good compare and contrast regarding what you're trying to accomplish with your system:

Credit Arnaldo Colado
The COTG Career Performance Tracker

I use this to help with rankings and measure the overall
of the guys in my fed. It's not just based upon straight
wins and losses, but on factors like how they are booked
and how the wins and losses come about. It's fun to keep
up with if you love stats.

I keep a running tab after each match but run the scores
every 3 months game time. I tabulate scores both quarterly
and life time. You can use them as often as it works best
for you.

The Colado COTG Career Performance Tracker

* Add points for everything that applies to a wrestlers
performance during a card. Also keep track of overall
record to give this more perspective.

* A multiple fall match (ie 2 out of 3 falls) is scored on
the basis of each fall counting separately.

* Championship matches have separate stats but are still
scored cumulatively for over all performance

Scoring System

Being Booked on a Card (+1)
Each Promo or Skit Appearance (+2)
Competing in a Match (singles or tag match) (+3)
Appearing/Interfering in a Match (+1)
Winning Any Match by DQ/CO (+3)
Winning a Singles Match by Pin (+5)
Winning a Tag Match by scoring the pin (+4)
Winning a Tag Match w/o scoring the pin (+3)
Draw (+1)
Wrestle in a Specialty Match (+1)
Win a Specialty Match (+2)
Being Booked in the Main Event (+3)
Being Booked in the Semi Main Event (+1)
Being Booked on a PPV (+3)
PPV Victory by Pin Fall (+2)
PPV Victory by DQ/CO (+1)

Champion Specialty Scores

Win GWF Title (+50)
Win IP Title (+30)
Win Tag Title (+20)
Retain Any Title by Pin Fall (+10)
Retain Any Title by DQ/CO (+5)

Separate Contender Stats

# Galaxian Title Shot (+7)
# IP Title Shot (+5)

Separate for each title and Subtract for cumulative score:

# Winning by DQ (-1)
# Draw (-2)
# Losing by DQ (-3)
# Losing by Pin (-5)

[Barnestormer]

lwpd said:

Looks good Sickman74. I like how you take success longevity into account in your system. I could see charting an 'evaluation snapshot' of peaks and valleys to mark major moments in a given wrestler's career.

Below is a different career ranking system from the COTGLegends Yahoo Group which may make for a good compare and contrast regarding what you're trying to accomplish with your system:

Credit Arnaldo Colado
The COTG Career Performance Tracker

I use this to help with rankings and measure the overall
of the guys in my fed. It's not just based upon straight
wins and losses, but on factors like how they are booked
and how the wins and losses come about. It's fun to keep
up with if you love stats.

I keep a running tab after each match but run the scores
every 3 months game time. I tabulate scores both quarterly
and life time. You can use them as often as it works best
for you.

The Colado COTG Career Performance Tracker

* Add points for everything that applies to a wrestlers
performance during a card. Also keep track of overall
record to give this more perspective.

* A multiple fall match (ie 2 out of 3 falls) is scored on
the basis of each fall counting separately.

* Championship matches have separate stats but are still
scored cumulatively for over all performance

Scoring System

Being Booked on a Card (+1)
Each Promo or Skit Appearance (+2)
Competing in a Match (singles or tag match) (+3)
Appearing/Interfering in a Match (+1)
Winning Any Match by DQ/CO (+3)
Winning a Singles Match by Pin (+5)
Winning a Tag Match by scoring the pin (+4)
Winning a Tag Match w/o scoring the pin (+3)
Draw (+1)
Wrestle in a Specialty Match (+1)
Win a Specialty Match (+2)
Being Booked in the Main Event (+3)
Being Booked in the Semi Main Event (+1)
Being Booked on a PPV (+3)
PPV Victory by Pin Fall (+2)
PPV Victory by DQ/CO (+1)

Champion Specialty Scores

Win GWF Title (+50)
Win IP Title (+30)
Win Tag Title (+20)
Retain Any Title by Pin Fall (+10)
Retain Any Title by DQ/CO (+5)

Separate Contender Stats

# Galaxian Title Shot (+7)
# IP Title Shot (+5)

Separate for each title and Subtract for cumulative score:

# Winning by DQ (-1)
# Draw (-2)
# Losing by DQ (-3)
# Losing by Pin (-5)

Did you take inspiration from the WWE Fantasy GM game from their site when coming up with the scoring system? They look to be the same, from what I'm seeing.

[sickman]

Thanks for the feedback.

I just finished my year 2119 and am going to use the new system to see how it looks. Then I will have a better understanding on if it works or not; and tweak accordingly.

I may use some of the things from Mr. Colado but for what I'm looking for, he is giving way too many points. I may add in a variable in which who you beat is important. For example; beating a top 5 guy weighs more than beating Gryt or Plethador. And perhaps losing to a Plethador drops your points.

Still coming up with ideas as I write this so tweaking is in order. Again thanks for the feeedback.

[LWPD]

Did you take inspiration from the WWE Fantasy GM game from their site when coming up with the scoring system? They look to be the same, from what I'm seeing.

Since I didn't create the chart I wouldn't be the person to ask with regards to it's creative 'inspiration'. The chart is the product of Arnaldo Colado...which was very clearly noted in bold lettering. In addition to taking note of your failure to honor the initial posters request for feedback on the chart he was kind enough to share (which was the actual purpose of this thread) I'd advise you to make an effort to read more carefully before posting condescending comments to any of your fellow board members in the future.

LWPD (who finds it funny how a 'bold credited attribution' can clearly fly over someone's head)

[LWPD]

sickman74 said:

Thanks for the feedback.

I just finished my year 2119 and am going to use the new system to see how it looks. Then I will have a better understanding on if it works or not; and tweak accordingly.

I may use some of the things from Mr. Colado but for what I'm looking for, he is giving way too many points. I may add in a variable in which who you beat is important. For example; beating a top 5 guy weighs more than beating Gryt or Plethador. And perhaps losing to a Plethador drops your points.

Still coming up with ideas as I write this so tweaking is in order. Again thanks for the feeedback.

No problem Sickman. One thing I've discovered through playing this game is that the more math intensive the ratings formula becomes the less it can feel like a game. I'd say the perfect balance is found when the time put in is rewarding enough to give you the substance you're looking for...but doesn't hit the stage of becoming a chore. Hope you find that balance with your project.

LWPD (who has undertaken quite a few ratings system experiments over the years...but has never found the 'perfect system' which completely stopped me from experimenting for good)

[sickman]

**updated version**

To qualify for the rankings; take the number of total matches and divide by the number of total competitors. This prevents rookies or wrestlers that haven't had as many matches from getting into the rankings based on a perfect record after 1 or 2 matches.

Rankings are figured after every 3 month period.

At the beginning of a new year, half of a wrestlers exsisting point total is carried over. If a wrestler was not qualified to be ranked, his points are cut in half twice. For instance, a 40 would become a 10 instead of a 20. Records are reset.

100%=100
95%-99.9%=95
90%-94.9%=90
85%-89.9%=85
80%-84.9%=80
75%-79.9%=75
70%-74.9%=70
65%-69.9%=65
60%-64.9%=60
55%-59.9%=55
50%-54.9%=50
45%-49.9%=35
40%-44.9%=30
35%-39.9%=25
30%-34.9%=20
25%-29.9%=15
20%-24.9%=10
15%-19.9%=8
10%-14.9%=5
0%-9.9%=1

**Every 10 wins= 10 points
**Every 10 losses= -5 points
**GWF Championship won= 50 points
**GWF Championship defended successfully= 25 points
**GWF Championship lost= -30 points
**Intergalactic Championship won= 30 points
**Intergalactic Championship defended successfully= 20 points
**I.G. Championship lost= -20 points
**GWF Tag Team Titles won= 50 points
**GWF Tag Team Titles defended successfully= 25 points
**GWF Tag Team Titles Lost= -30 points
**GWF Womens Title won= 50 points
**GWF Womens Title defended successfully= 25 points
**GWF Womens Title lost= -30 points

**Outside the top 15 w/win vs. top 10= +10 pts
**Inside the top 10 w/loss vs. Bottom 15= -10 pts



Explanation: Under my old system; a wrestler recieved points just for winning. Well; if said wrestler had more matches than anyone else, of course he/she had a chance to secure more points than anyone else. Hopefully this system is "weighted" more for quality than quantity.

Of course feedback is appreciated.

[Graymar]

To qualify for the rankings; take the number of total matches and divide by the number of total competitors.

Sickman,

Could you explain this a little more...I got lost.

Thanks

Graymar

[sickman]

No problem Graymar.

For instance, throughout my 2119 year, I played 518 singles matches. Divide that number by how many singles competitors there were, which including the 2120 set came out to 33. so 518 divided by 33 comes out to 15.6 rounded up to 16. 16 is the number of matches a wrestler would need to qualify for the rankings.

I know that it is very much math intensive. And for some reason I became a math nut over the years so this was the best way I could come up with a viable ranking system that I could get the most out of. Obviously it's not for everyone but thought that I would share.

Again feedback and suggestions are more than welcome.

[Graymar]

Got it!

The math's no problem...

Thanks

Graymar

[sickman]

I modified a problem that I came across. Gryt won the only match he was in so his 1-0 record would have resulted in him having 50 points even after cutting it in half. So in the case of a wrestler not qualified to be ranked, you cut his points in half twice.

[Barnestormer]

lwpd said:

Did you take inspiration from the WWE Fantasy GM game from their site when coming up with the scoring system? They look to be the same, from what I'm seeing.

Since I didn't create the chart I wouldn't be the person to ask with regards to it's creative 'inspiration'. The chart is the product of Arnaldo Colado...which was very clearly noted in bold lettering. In addition to taking note of your failure to honor the initial posters request for feedback on the chart he was kind enough to share (which was the actual purpose of this thread) I'd advise you to make an effort to read more carefully before posting condescending comments to any of your fellow board members in the future.

LWPD (who finds it funny how a 'bold credited attribution' can clearly fly over someone's head)

Be nice, LWPD. I didn't see the credit until after I made the post. Hang a "Here's Your Sign" sign on me.

[Mr. Jimmyface]

Pretty nifty, Sickman. You've given me something to consider tweaking my current system with. Thanks for sharing this with us!

[sickman]

The pleasure is all mine, ohh God of the BBQ!!

[Wad]

sickman74 said:

I modified a problem that I came across. Gryt won the only match he was in so his 1-0 record would have resulted in him having 50 points even after cutting it in half. So in the case of a wrestler not qualified to be ranked, you cut his points in half twice.

Do you carry over rankings across a career?

[sickman]

Looking back; I don't see why I had to cut Gryts points down that much since based on the updated version he would not have qualified for the rankings anyway.

cledermuller said:

sickman74 said:

I modified a problem that I came across. Gryt won the only match he was in so his 1-0 record would have resulted in him having 50 points even after cutting it in half. So in the case of a wrestler not qualified to be ranked, you cut his points in half twice.

Do you carry over rankings across a career?

To answer your question, yes rankings are carried over across a career.

[SherriFan]

I think this looks really nice, Minitaker. Thank you for pointing me to it!

I do have a question, though, because I'm clearly missing something (luckily, math isn't an issue here).

Okay, so, let's use your example as an example:

For instance, throughout my 2119 year, I played 518 singles matches. Divide that number by how many singles competitors there were, which including the 2120 set came out to 33. so 518 divided by 33 comes out to 15.6 rounded up to 16. 16 is the number of matches a wrestler would need to qualify for the rankings.

Okay, so let's assume a bunch of wrestlers had 16 matches or more.

I see they get points for so many wins, title wins, etc.

But what does THIS table have to do with anything?

100%=100
95%-99.9%=95
90%-94.9%=90
85%-89.9%=85
80%-84.9%=80
75%-79.9%=75
70%-74.9%=70
65%-69.9%=65
60%-64.9%=60
55%-59.9%=55
50%-54.9%=50
45%-49.9%=35
40%-44.9%=30
35%-39.9%=25
30%-34.9%=20
25%-29.9%=15
20%-24.9%=10
15%-19.9%=8
10%-14.9%=5
0%-9.9%=1

[Eliath]

That would be the W-L percentage of each qualifying wrestler & how many points they get for that ranking period. At least, as I understand it.

[sickman]

Sorry it took so long to respond. Yes, that table as Eliath said is the winning percentage and points associated with it. This is for those that qualify for the rankings. This way a wrestler doesn't get points just for winning. The better he does is weighed more than how many wins he/she has.

[SherriFan]

sickman74 said:

Sorry it took so long to respond. Yes, that table as Eliath said is the winning percentage and points associated with it. This is for those that qualify for the rankings. This way a wrestler doesn't get points just for winning. The better he does is weighed more than how many wins he/she has.

So, to make sure I have this right:

Let's say a wrestler has 40 wins and 20 losses, for example. That means he/she has won 66.6% of their matches. So, in that case, he/she would have 60 (for the 66%) + 40 (+10 for every 10 wins) - 10 (-5 for every 10 losses) = 90 points?