pw and ag ratings

[Nemecys]

When creating cards, does anyone have a standard for assigning pw and ag? I looked through past GWF roasters and saw that power ratings varied so much with weights, but has anyone come up with a system for them, and also for what kind of wrestlers have different levels of ag?

Thanks,

Jay

[WTIC]

I don't think there is one. Maybe there is, I don't know.

[Barnestormer]

I've got a rudimentary agility/power rating chart in relation to weight that I've been trying to develop. I haven't been using it much, because it needs some major work on it. It was something I came up with after playing Smackdown!: Here Comes The Pain. (I've got a self-created cruiserweight. He can lift other cruiserweights and heavyweights, but he can't lift superheavyweights. I wanted to do something just like that for COTG when creating bootleg wrestlers. Go to www.geocities.com/dpbarnes99/matches2 and click on "wapguide.htm" If anybody can offer any suggestions on it, email me at [e-mail].

[Nemecys]

Thanks, it looks useful, although I don't understand a wrestler weighing 240 pounds having a +4 power. I also use Snackdown HCTP for several ideas, including the hardcore match. We're setting up a federation that combines legends wrestlers (from the LOW) with modern or our favorites such as The Hart Family, Randy Savage, Brock Lesner, and Cactus Jack. I'm working on the hardcore match since my friend loves throwing people off of buildings.

We also brought several wrestlers that I created in HCTP to our new fed, including the 400 pound high flyer Kamakaze (my friend's favorite) and the assassin Headstalker.

Thanks again for the ag/pw idea. Take care,

Jay

[Big Bri]

Hey Jay,

I recently discovered a website that lists how-to's for creating a ton of old-school wrestlers. It's at cheatsforplaystation2.com

It also has movelists, and pics to help you on the tough parts. It sounds like you might already have known about this, but I still though'd I'd get you hip to it just in case you hadn't. I'm making a fed too: A few guys already in the game, some old schoolers, and to round it out for comic relief, my friends and family (LOL!) It's helped me kill a lot of time here in Afghanistan (I'm deployed here with the Army). Let me know how your fed is going when you get it rolling and I'll do the same.

[Nemecys]

Thanks BigBri,

We just started our first card. Brett Hart beat Red Bastion in an exhibition match. Afterwards (and throughout the show), Bastion and Johnny Valentine clashed. Valentine insulted Bastion's performance and Bastion claimed that Valentine was living in his son's shadow. Funny thing about this is when we roleplay the interviews/clashes, Bastion keeps coming off more and more as a heel.

Steve Austin beat Wolf by dq. This is far from over.

World Title tournament Round 1:

Brock Lesnar f-5ed Ultimate Warrior for the win.
Randy Savage pinned Andre.
Buddy Rogers made Goldberg tap.
Headstalker pinned Hogan.
Greg Valentine pinned Austin when Wolf interfered.
Vader pinned Snuka after a powerbomb.
Yokozuna pinned The Rock.
Benoit made Kamakaze tap after Kamakaze missed 2
TSUNAMI jumps.

Round 2 and the draft is Friday. My friend are splitting it so we can run house shows when we can't meet.

Hope things are going well where you are. Take care and be safe,

Jay

[DoubleR]

A question was raised about a 240 pound guy with a +4 power rating. If you really take a look at what power and agility ratings do...they basically enable wrestlers to use agility or power to counter another's moves. So, in a sense...it's not size or speed that should determine what your wrestlers' power and agility ratings will be...it's how they use that size and/or speed in the ring that should determine their ratings. So, one guy who weighs 280 can have a better power rating than one that weighs 300+ ... IF the smaller wrestler has a better grasp on how to use his power in the ring. Ring experience definitely should come into play when determining wrestlers' power and agility ratings.

Another factor you should also consider is wear-and-tear of a pro career. Wrestling numerous years and suffering numerous injuries over those years...even minor ones...will affect your wrestler's body's ability to do the things he once was able to do 5 years ago.

In essence...just using size and size alone to determine power and agility ratings completely overlooks the reasons that power and agility ratings are in the game to begin with, IMO.

[Nemecys]

DoubleR,

After looking back over several cards, I do see what you mean. A large wrestler with a low pw probably doesn't have the skill or upper body strength to lift someone up too high. And a thin wrestler with a low ag is probably a clutz.

Thanks,

I'm glad Tom had this board put up since I've learned more about this game from talking to people in the past few months than I have in playing for 11 years.

Thanks again,

Jay

[Darth Turkish]

Nemecys said:

I'm glad Tom had this board put up since I've learned more about this game from talking to people in the past few months than I have in playing for 11 years.

Thanks again,

Jay

Amen to that!