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Post by LWPD on Jul 15, 2007 17:13:07 GMT -5
It isn't a good sign when this show is just a few hours away and there's no posts discussing it... Preview Video
Live Sunday July 15, 2007 8 PM EST
TNA Victory Road '07 PPV Final CardTHE MATCH OF CHAMPIONS: TNA Heavyweight and X Division Champions Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe vs. TNA Tag Team Champions Team 3D
10 Man Ultimate X Featuring: Black Machismo, Fallen Angel, Homicide, Sonjay Dutt, Kaz, Shark Boy, Elix Skipper, Puma & two mystery stars
"The Instant Classic" Christian Cage vs. 'Wildcat" Chris Harris
"The War Machine" Rhino vs. "Cowboy" James Storm
Eric Young and Gail Kim vs. Robert Roode and Ms. Brooks
Sting & Abyss vs AJ Styles & Tomko
Jerry Lynn & Mr. Backlund vs Chris Sabin & Alex Shelley |
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Post by MikeMcKinney on Jul 15, 2007 17:22:39 GMT -5
This card does nothing for me!! A main event with team 3D sucks. The X division match up should be good. Also Cage and Harris should be great but the rest of the card is lack luster.
I'm still watching and praying i'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Post by crimsoncross on Jul 15, 2007 17:32:27 GMT -5
Yeah the MAIN EVENT is not that good, but I do like the rest of the look for this pay-per-view... the 10 Man Gauntlet Ultimate X Match should be SOLID! PUMA is back which is COOL, hope he stays on with TNA Wrestling.
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Post by hofclemens on Jul 15, 2007 18:32:17 GMT -5
it pains me to see talents like Shelly and Sabin wasted in a program with Backlund. I mean the X divison match should be good but theres so many guys in there it makes it hard for anyone to stand out.
As for the main event am I the only one who wants to see Bubb Ray as X divison champ?! Talk about the no limits X divison.
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Post by MikeMcKinney on Jul 15, 2007 19:47:50 GMT -5
This match would have been 50 times more intriguing if Styles and Daniels had one the Tag match a couple of weeks ago. I say this because, I Can't see Bubba or Devon as anything but tag champs...but Styles and Daniels could be Tag or Singles champs. So either Joe or Angle will win.
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Post by hofclemens on Jul 15, 2007 22:32:59 GMT -5
I didn't see the show but I heard Dustin Rhodes made an appearance. not exactly thrilled by this we will see how they explain it. I just think it ends up as TNA taking another WWE reject of questionable standing.
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Post by GalactiKing on Jul 15, 2007 22:49:28 GMT -5
Dustin was only interesting as Goldust so why they felt the need to recycle him again..well who knows.
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Post by jawnrah on Jul 16, 2007 2:31:49 GMT -5
I really just started to get into TNA I think it's more exciting than WWE right now. I think the way it's shot and edited for tv is leaps and bounds ahead of WWE, the action is always crazy fast paced, as for the PPV card I did like the main event more than others here, but kind of felt that the tag belts would change hands.
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Post by Knapik on Jul 16, 2007 2:47:42 GMT -5
So Samoa Joe is the Tag Team Champions? Weird.
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Post by JamieOD on Jul 16, 2007 3:02:30 GMT -5
Along with the TNA World and unofficial IWGP Heavyweight champion. I heard Kurt went around beating the hell out of mid-carders during the show.
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Post by JED-SE on Jul 16, 2007 9:27:46 GMT -5
This match would have been 50 times more intriguing if Styles and Daniels had one the Tag match a couple of weeks ago. I say this because, I Can't see Bubba or Devon as anything but tag champs...but Styles and Daniels could be Tag or Singles champs. So either Joe or Angle will win. I was thinking the same thing about AJ and Daniels. The idea of AJ or Daniels would have at least brought some suspense as to "maybe Joe or Angle won't win." Also, nobody wants to see Brother Ray or Devon win the X title or heavyweight title, but there are plenty of wrestling fans, including myself, that would have loved to see Daniels or AJ win one of the single's belts. |
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Post by MikeMcKinney on Jul 16, 2007 9:57:50 GMT -5
This match would have been 50 times more intriguing if Styles and Daniels had one the Tag match a couple of weeks ago. I say this because, I Can't see Bubba or Devon as anything but tag champs...but Styles and Daniels could be Tag or Singles champs. So either Joe or Angle will win. I was thinking the same thing about AJ and Daniels. The idea of AJ or Daniels would have at least brought some suspense as to "maybe Joe or Angle won't win." Also, nobody wants to see Brother Ray or Devon win the X title or heavyweight title, but there are plenty of wrestling fans, including myself, that would have loved to see Daniels or AJ win one of the single's belts. Amen brother. |
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Post by gatekeeper on Jul 16, 2007 14:33:43 GMT -5
I really just started to get into TNA I think it's more exciting than WWE right now. I think the way it's shot and edited for tv is leaps and bounds ahead of WWE, the action is always crazy fast paced, as for the PPV card I did like the main event more than others here, but kind of felt that the tag belts would change hands. Ok, I can appreciate the fact that you might like it, but nothing TNA does is ahead of the WWE. They have all WWE & WCW castoffs. They don't push their "homegrown" guys much at all. This fed should revolve much more around AJ Styles, Daniels, Joe, Senshi, and Roode. The minute they something big with a guy who's never been with Vince, they'll gain a ton of credibility. Too many multi-person matches. The roster is too big for only having 1 hour a week. They need to trim the fat off the roster and focus more on their own guys. |
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Post by jawnrah on Jul 16, 2007 16:53:18 GMT -5
All I was really saying is they present their matches in a much more exciting way than WWE does, for my dollar. The WWE has the top talent of course, I never question that because they can give bigger pay checks, I just think Vince and his associates should look at what they are doing and take notes, I think both WWE broadcasts could use some fresh ideas.
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Post by halistanar on Jul 16, 2007 18:22:00 GMT -5
I really just started to get into TNA I think it's more exciting than WWE right now. I think the way it's shot and edited for tv is leaps and bounds ahead of WWE, the action is always crazy fast paced, as for the PPV card I did like the main event more than others here, but kind of felt that the tag belts would change hands. Ok, I can appreciate the fact that you might like it, but nothing TNA does is ahead of the WWE. They have all WWE & WCW castoffs. They don't push their "homegrown" guys much at all. This fed should revolve much more around AJ Styles, Daniels, Joe, Senshi, and Roode. The minute they something big with a guy who's never been with Vince, they'll gain a ton of credibility. Too many multi-person matches. The roster is too big for only having 1 hour a week. They need to trim the fat off the roster and focus more on their own guys. I agree with that statement! TNA is a weak second tier promotion with guys from WWE WCW and ECW trying to make a bigger name for themselves. Christian Cage is not World Championship material. Kurt Angle has some kind of problems at home and in his private life that should be addressed before he continues his career. Scott Steiner should be shaking in his boots with all the steroid questions arising. Rino belongs in TNA, Jerry Lynn from what I have read is a big influence on TNA, I have no Idea why Kevin Nash is in TNA, his eye spy paparazzi production things make no sense. Sting is a good addition to TNA, he was misused in WCW and I think he has done well in TNA. I have told all my friends that Alex Shelly is the best wrestler there, and if they knew what to do with AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels, they'd be dangerous. I do like Joe, and I wish they kept Americas Most Wanted a face tag team. But seriously, TNA is only 4 years old. They are trying to seperate themselves from other wrestling, thus matches like Ultimate X and the six sided ring. The mistake they are making is not renting themselves a building off the Universal lot, and being a little more bare bones and raw. The magic of ECW was that it was low production and high energy. TNA is high production and low to mid energy. |
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Post by Knapik on Jul 16, 2007 19:30:54 GMT -5
1) Christian Cage is definitely World Championship material. Im no TNA fan, but the guy has been fantastic in TNA.
2) You don't know what Angle's homelife is like, and the man himself says things are going well and TNA is making sure he's well. Who are you to say he needs to fix his personal life before he makes a living?
3) Alex Shelley is indeed awesome.
4) TNA has been picking up their games as of late, but the booking of this PPV is inexcusable.
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Post by halistanar on Jul 16, 2007 21:35:28 GMT -5
Okay I aint a Christian Fan
Angle was on my deathpool list all last year.
I am right about Shelly? okay so are you
TNA is my favorite wrestling show, and I just do not understand some of the angles they produce.
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Post by smathis on Jul 16, 2007 23:14:36 GMT -5
[rant]
Having your tag champs go up against your World and Junior champ as part of an annual match is just dumb. There should be some really, really crucial reason why these titleholders want a piece of each other... besides "D'oh! It's time for the Match of Champions again!"
Putting the X-Division belt on Joe at this point in his tenure is stupid. Black Machismo should have gotten a longer run and potentially lost to Sabin or Shelley. Since his persona change, which he has admirably played to the hilt, Jay Lethal has been one of the most over members of the X-Division. Having Joe squash him just to get to the already dumb Match of Champions was a sign that the TNA booking staff is possibly approaching a vegetative state.
Is Joe that lame that he has to steal the X-Division's lunch money to get bus fare to a World Title shot?
'Cause that's how they're booking him.
This point in time would have been a perfect time to start an Angle-Joe series of matches for the title but TNA blew their wad on that to spike a couple of PPVs. Short-sighted.
Dumb.
Joe and Angle should have been working together against the Christian Coalition with Angle getting the belt. The result would have been a classic face/face feud of the likes not seen in a long while, had it been built properly. Angle could have put Joe over and both could've come out smelling like roses, even if neither of them walked out with the belt.
Instead, Joe is Angle's abused lackey, alternately burying the hatchet and hating Kurt to death when it fits the storyline. I wonder what Joe's girlfriend (remember her?) thinks of all this. Why in the blue hades would Joe be palling around with Angle after that? I guess Joe dumped that poor girl after she couldn't walk to the fridge to get him a beer. No other explanation. Come to think of it, Joe should've been on Cage's team, not Angle's. What good reason does he have to do anything for Angle besides choke him out?
Daniels, Styles, Shelley and the rest of the ROH crew have been shamefully underutilized by a TNA booking team that treats them like the vanilla midgets in WCW. TNA has the talent. But has no clue what to do with it.
Shock the world. Put the belt on D-Von!
Anyway. Here's hoping TNA straightens their mess out. I stopped watching after Joe took the X-Division belt. I thought it was bad booking and that has only been confirmed by the lineup for this PPV.
Barring that, here's hoping the ROH crew finds its way back to the ONE company that still knows how to book.... ROH.
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Post by JMello on Jul 17, 2007 8:42:11 GMT -5
Match of Champions = top 10 Worst bookings of all time.
Thank you, that is all.
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Post by Avarice on Jul 17, 2007 9:40:20 GMT -5
It would have been better in the MOC to have all titles being live. Basically to where Joe could have beaten Kurt to win the TNA title, then it would have made more since instead. I guess more of a 4 corners match of sorts.
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