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Post by Mark 138 on Dec 30, 2004 22:27:58 GMT -5
I know that this has been asked before, I think that I may have even asked the question on the old forum, but I was just wondering what GWF wrestlers are based on real wrestlers? I don't mean in looks (I saw that thread), I mean overall. Like I know Tom said that Draconian Sheik (SP?) was based on the original Sheik. Was Omega really based on Jay Strongbow? Any others? I am thinking about using some of the obvious ones in my Legends fed. Thanks! A lot of the originals were seemingly influenced by the wrestlers of the time (mid-80s), but now they seem to have a more comic book and sci-fi influence. Early ones I believe, intentionally or not, are based on real wrestlers: The Gladiators- obviously inspired by the Road Warriors Wolf- Bruiser Brody could have been an indirect influence. Commander Sam- Sgt. Slaughter. Killer Queen- a very obvious take on Exotic Adrian Street, one of the most immitated wrestlers of all-time (by the likes of "adorable" Adrian Adonis, Goldust, and Rico, among countless others). Omega- Obviously influenced by the Indian wrestlers of the time, like Chief Jay Strongbow and Wahoo McDaniel. Not one in particular, but in the mid 80s you needed a "Native American" wrestler! Vanity- I always pictured him as a Jimmy Garvin type, but that may just be my interpretation clouding my observation. Nearly all of the characters clearly inspired by actual wrestlers are in the first edition. I assume this is because Tom knew he needed to hit on the popular archtypes of the day in order to sell the more cosmic aspects of the game to the audience of the time. Then once he had us hooked in he could really get creative. |
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Post by Vidtek on Dec 31, 2004 10:01:46 GMT -5
I know Tom said that Vanity is "a poor man's Ric Flair," but I remember somewhere it being said that Flair got split into two wrestlers. Vanity got the style and Thantos got the abilitys.Also I've heard it mentioned that Star Warrior was orriginally concepted to be a little like Ricky Steamboat. The most recent "real" wrestling influence I can see is in Cyclone, who is a nod to the Hurricane of the WWE (WASSUPWITDAT!)
As far as comic book influences, how has anyone missed some of these obvious ones:
Wolf is a lot like Wolverine, although I think that is not intentional.
The Whole Animen race has shades of the Knights of Woundergore (sp?).
Blizzard being Iceman is to obvious to even mention.
Blazing Skull seems to be artisticly based on Ghost Rider, I even call the biking spirit of vengence Blazing Skull accedently every once and a while.
The whole Genissis/Colonizer war seemed to me to be a play on the X-Men/Genosia thing(people with strange powers and the tyranical government that opressese them).
Thetis and Vortex could be Aquaman and Prince Namor.
The Mad Jester and the Joker have a few things in common (the "clone" card even looks like him, with that angled jaw).
I'm sure there's more, but it's early for me and I can't really think.
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Post by Wildfire at Home on Jan 1, 2005 14:29:59 GMT -5
Here's a couple other comic influences...
The most obvious comic book influence is Darkos, who is the splitting image of Doctor Doom...
Also, The Estorians and paragon (especially Paragon) look alot like the Thing....
Then, of course, there's Valour, who looks a bit like He-Man to me, but it may just be the sword.
I wouldn't really consider the Ani-men to be a comic influence, since Half Animal/humans are a literary tradition that goes back way before that.. (the Island of Dr. Moreau springs to mind)
Also, there was actually a Marvel character named Battering Ram, but he was created way after Tom's character, and bears little resemblance other than the name.
-- Wildfire
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Jan 1, 2005 14:36:39 GMT -5
Are you sure you mean Paragon and not Terminus? =)
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Post by Nate on Jan 1, 2005 20:44:46 GMT -5
Guys, what does Cyclopes look like? I'm not looking for a picture.
I've stated before that I'm starting a fed with GWF wrestlers as an Indy program to my LWF. So, I need guys that are somewhat realistic looking. They can have far out backgrounds as long as they look mostly human.
For instance, I'm using a bootleg of Spider-Man, because he is supposed to be an every day human who was bitten and given superpowers.
However, I won't use someone like Maelstrom or Comrade Terror. (No offense Tom if you read this ;D)
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Post by JimSteel on Jan 1, 2005 20:59:25 GMT -5
Cyclopes looks like a one eyed Cyclopes from Mythology.
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Post by Nate on Jan 2, 2005 8:47:27 GMT -5
Oh man, I should have just guessed what he looked like  That was pretty obvious  |
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Post by Wildfire at Work on Jan 3, 2005 13:34:49 GMT -5
Are you sure you mean Paragon and not Terminus? =) Yeah, you get a no-prize!  -- Wildfire |
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Post by Swarm on Jan 3, 2005 23:40:47 GMT -5
Guys, what does Cyclopes look like? I'm not looking for a picture. I've stated before that I'm starting a fed with GWF wrestlers as an Indy program to my LWF. So, I need guys that are somewhat realistic looking. They can have far out backgrounds as long as they look mostly human. For instance, I'm using a bootleg of Spider-Man, because he is supposed to be an every day human who was bitten and given superpowers. However, I won't use someone like Maelstrom or Comrade Terror. (No offense Tom if you read this ;D) What are some kind of Cygnus Racist? You should be ashamed of yourself. |
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Post by Tom on Jan 4, 2005 15:47:47 GMT -5
Nearly all of the characters clearly inspired by actual wrestlers are in the first edition. I assume this is because Tom knew he needed to hit on the popular archtypes of the day in order to sell the more cosmic aspects of the game to the audience of the time. Then once he had us hooked in he could really get creative.
The above comment by Storm Rider is a very wise one indeed, although I wasn't so much trying to "sell" the game as I myself was a wrestling fan and influenced by those archetypes. The only theory that is mistaken is that Killer Queen was infuenced by Exotic Adrian Street. I never saw Adrian Street; he wrestled in a fed I never watched. Killer Queen was supposed to be like Alice Cooper, but Chuck Carter went in a different direction with the art.
A lot of the other comparisons---too many to respond to specifically---are quite accurate. I intend to cover a lot of this ground in my Dark Menace book.
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Post by madmaniac on Jan 4, 2005 23:41:18 GMT -5
Anyone that has ever seen Exotic Adrian Street and miss Linda will never forget them.
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Post by Graymar on Jan 5, 2005 8:48:45 GMT -5
This stretches a bit...but...
In my GWF '75...last night's card had Torin Caelum v Screw...the whole match really felt like Chris Benoit v Kane.
Graymar
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Post by Wildfire at Work on Jan 5, 2005 14:16:24 GMT -5
I can see it Graymar...Screw has a style that is very Kane-like, and he has the whole silent thing going ala Kane in the early 90s... an Caelum is a techical wrestler, though I don't picture him as intense as Benoit.
-- Wildfire
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Post by Joe on Jan 5, 2005 14:56:05 GMT -5
Graymar-
I don't think he is stretching things at all. I know for a fact that I will never forget Exotic Adrian Street no matter how hard I try!
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Post by Big Bri on Jan 5, 2005 17:01:17 GMT -5
The Screw-Kane connection is right on. When I created Screw on the "Smackdown Vs. Raw" game for PS2, I gave him the Masked Kane's moveset, then just tweaked it a bit.
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Post by josharpie99 on Jan 24, 2005 1:27:29 GMT -5
I always drew these connections but I haven't bought a game edition in years. So, take them for what its worth...
Wolf -- Bruiser Brody and Ultimate Warrior
Spike -- Sting
Star Warrior -- Hogan and Steamboat
Omega -- Jay Strongbow
Gladiators -- The Road Warriors
Massif -- Andre the Giant meets Tugboat
Lightening -- 123 Kid
Creeper -- George "The Animal" Steele
Mutant -- George "The Animal" Steele
Vanity -- Macho Man and Flair but with the talent of Lanny Poffo
Chaos -- Vader
Bishop Hell -- "Hot Stuff" Eddie Gilbert
Killer Queen -- Exotic Adrian Street
Dragonmaster -- Steamboat
Exo-King -- Big John Studd meets Harley "King" Race
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Post by CCK on Jan 24, 2005 12:17:31 GMT -5
Lightening couldn't be Waltman because Waltman wouldn't break into the WWF until five years after the card was released.
I've always thought Dragonmaster was Steamboat.
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Post by traviz on Jan 24, 2005 13:00:36 GMT -5
Lightening couldn't be Waltman because Waltman wouldn't break into the WWF until five years after the card was released. He didn't say the card was based on Waltman, he said drew a connection. I'm taking that to mean, it's who he saw when he envisioned the character, not who Tom had in mind when he created said character |
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Post by josharpie99 on Jan 30, 2005 14:19:32 GMT -5
Well, I guess Massif is more like Gorilla Monsoon?
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Post by wildman on Jan 30, 2005 14:36:01 GMT -5
Well, I guess Massif is more like Gorilla Monsoon? I was thinking more like Big John Stud |
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