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Post by Bazzy on Dec 8, 2007 15:17:11 GMT -5
I have looked and looked . There is NO difference between the new LOW & COTG charts is there ?
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Post by GalactiKing on Dec 8, 2007 15:58:22 GMT -5
Shouldn't be.
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Post by Tournament Master on Dec 8, 2007 16:10:12 GMT -5
There is just one type of advanced charts Bazzy.
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Post by godzillajoe2k4 on Dec 12, 2007 16:50:38 GMT -5
I have looked and looked . There is NO difference between the new LOW & COTG charts is there ? OK this confuses me. Are these new charts just the "updated" COTG charts from a few years ago? Or are these "NEW" new charts. Version 3 or so? |
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Post by Cory Olson on Dec 12, 2007 17:03:02 GMT -5
Correct, these are the third versions (for most of the charts). I'm not sure what Bazzy was referring to in his previous post. |
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Post by Tournament Master on Dec 12, 2007 17:06:15 GMT -5
The charts are listed under both COTG charts and Legends Charts in the online store. I believe thats what Bazzy is referring to.
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Post by godzillajoe2k4 on Dec 12, 2007 17:40:15 GMT -5
Can someone give me the basic idea of how the charts are different?
I rather like the simplicity of the original charts for LOW and don't really want any crazy suicide dives and moonsaults or power bombs through tables for my old school cards
If that's the what they're like, I will hold off until the next GWF set to get them
Any pre-Hogan era old school fans wanna weigh in?
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Post by Pete on Dec 12, 2007 21:02:04 GMT -5
A rundown...
The cards have new corner artwork.
The Pin Save chart has a few more options, including the Midnight Express "whack the pinner behind the ref's back" move.
New moves on the choice situations chart: huracanrana, spinning leg lariat, spinebuster, Death Valley driver, frog splash.
The Ropes chart is basically the same as V.2, but some results give you the choice of move depending on your wrestler's style (strictly a cosmetic thing). Same thing with the Out of the Ring Chart, which also adds an option for double countouts in addition to double DQs.
The Hurt Referee moves from Deathjump to Into the Turnbuckle. A wrestler going for a deathjump can now get knocked to the floor. Also (I was happy to see this), the Turnbuckle chart sees the return of the Sgt. Slaughter "miss a charge and go flying over to the floor" result.
The Suicide Dive chart can now be used by anybody, adjusting for their Agility ratings--as opposed to the Out of the Ring Deathjump Chart where non-cruiserweights had to use the "0 or worse Agility" option.
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Post by GalactiKing on Dec 12, 2007 22:59:58 GMT -5
I like those changes. That Double Countout has been lacking for years and I'm glad we finally have it. And I did like the turnbuckle to the floor option so glad it's returning.
One thing I'm toying with is mixing the moves from all 3 choice charts so wrestlers have several options on what moves to perform to an opponent.
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Post by Bazzy on Dec 13, 2007 2:11:03 GMT -5
Even before the new chart/s recently were released . There came a point in my LOW feds . I just started to use the COTG charts for all feds . The COTG charts I feel are better .
Now thats confused you even more , I'm sorry .
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Post by Gunslinger on Dec 13, 2007 7:01:10 GMT -5
Anyone else picturing Don Leon Jonathan doing suicide dives?
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Post by Chad Olson on Dec 13, 2007 8:54:03 GMT -5
Anyone else picturing Don Leon Jonathan doing suicide dives? Totally! When we started researching DLJ for his LOW card, it became apparent that he was very similar to Mike Awesome, in terms of being a big man who could really move. I could easily see him doing a slingshot plancha to the floor. Maybe not all the stuff with tables & chairs like Awesome!  |
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Post by Chad Olson on Dec 13, 2007 9:01:31 GMT -5
A rundown... The cards have new corner artwork. The Pin Save chart has a few more options, including the Midnight Express "whack the pinner behind the ref's back" move. Also (I was happy to see this), the Turnbuckle chart sees the return of the Sgt. Slaughter "miss a charge and go flying over to the floor" result. I always loved both of those moves, so that's why they're on there. We tried to expand the pin saves and wrestler/manager interference charts, in terms of both choices and more spelled out scenarios. What do you (or does anyone) think of the countout options on the wrestler/manager charts? The Ropes chart is basically the same as V.2, but some results give you the choice of move depending on your wrestler's style (strictly a cosmetic thing). Same thing with the Out of the Ring Chart, which also adds an option for double countouts in addition to double DQs. We tried to give promoters more realistic situations, depending on how they see the wrestler in their mind. The Hurt Referee moves from Deathjump to Into the Turnbuckle. I'm not a big fan of ref bumps, but they seem to have a growing influence in today's wrestling. We thought moving them to the Turnbuckle chart would reflect this. |
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Post by Gunslinger on Dec 13, 2007 10:11:31 GMT -5
I don't have the charts yet but I like the double countout and ending up outside the ring after missing a turnbuckle charge. I've always thought the ref bump would make more sense on the turnbuckle chart.
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Post by Tournament Master on Dec 13, 2007 10:43:47 GMT -5
The updated Manager chart is my favorite...for both the countout option and the evil mustache.  |
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Post by tystates on Dec 13, 2007 11:58:13 GMT -5
Here is a suggestion. List the charts in the game accessories section or something like that at the online store. Having them in the cotg and the low section makes it appear as though they are different, as is being seen here with people trying to figure out differences that aren't there.
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Post by Cory Olson on Dec 13, 2007 14:34:05 GMT -5
The updated Manager chart is my favorite...for both the countout option and the evil mustache. I second the evil mustached manager...always a sign of EVIL! Chad came up with the idea of the countout being based on a number, rather than the wrestler's PIN fatigue rating. If you think about it, he's not really getting hurt if he's chasing the interfering manager/wrestler. He could technically be kicking butt in the match, but get annoyed by the interferer, chase, then get counted out and screwed out of victory. It's one of my favorite features from all of the updated charts. |
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Post by Tournament Master on Dec 13, 2007 14:37:08 GMT -5
Here is a suggestion. List the charts in the game accessories section or something like that at the online store. Having them in the cotg and the low section makes it appear as though they are different, as is being seen here with people trying to figure out differences that aren't there. Already being taken care of. Brand new online store is coming soon... |
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Post by rawhide on Dec 13, 2007 14:47:07 GMT -5
will the charts be marked for gwf or low only ?
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Post by tystates on Dec 13, 2007 15:30:07 GMT -5
will the charts be marked for gwf or low only ? This shouldn't be that hard to figure out. The charts are for both cotg and low. There are no differences. |
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