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Post by soug on Jan 8, 2006 19:51:17 GMT -5
Can anyone on the roster be considered a monster? I'm struggling to find anyone that fits the bill! Maybe Rubicon? Maybe Xenia!?? ;D This place really needs someone to shake it up. Any suggestions??  |
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Post by GalactiKing on Jan 8, 2006 22:15:31 GMT -5
I don't think anyone really qualifies but Mensar may well be when he returns in 2121.
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Post by Bazzy on Jan 9, 2006 1:18:53 GMT -5
I agree Soug . Rubicon from my fed matches , I don't rate him at all .  Though Monsters I do wonder , if Mark has built the CPC around the theory . You don't need to be a monster to be a great wrestler . I mean look at TNA X division as a example . Where Vince looks his 7 foot 400 lbs beast ? . I think more people prefer X division style because monsters can not do many moves and probably grapple or brawl more than a 20 minutes match . Keep it going Mark whatever you are doing ? |
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Post by soug on Jan 9, 2006 1:26:04 GMT -5
I agree Soug . Rubicon from my fed matches , I don't rate him at all . Though Monsters I do wonder , if Mark has built the CPC around the theory . You don't need to be a monster to be a great wrestler . I mean look at TNA X division as a example . Where Vince looks his 7 foot 400 lbs beast ? . I think more people prefer X division style because monsters can not do many moves and probably grapple or brawl more than a 20 minutes match . Keep it going Mark whatever you are doing ? i agree. most of the wrestlers in the CPC are of the similar mold. that not to say i think they are all similar, but i think it would be good though to bring in somebody a little "different". |
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Post by Mad Dog on Jan 9, 2006 6:34:54 GMT -5
I like things as is. The GWF has a couple of monsters roaming around and it makes the CPC different. If anything the CPC needs a cheating heel in the mold of Ric Flair and the Honky Tonk Man to further seperate itself.
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Post by kaz on Jan 9, 2006 8:54:36 GMT -5
I like things as is. The GWF has a couple of monsters roaming around and it makes the CPC different. If anything the CPC needs a cheating heel in the mold of Ric Flair and the Honky Tonk Man to further seperate itself. Which is why I was pulling for Godsend to turn up in the CPC minus the Marmus nonsense. He would have been a great "vain" heel in the Ric Flair mold. |
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Post by jsanudo on Jan 9, 2006 13:21:25 GMT -5
I like things as is. The GWF has a couple of monsters roaming around and it makes the CPC different. If anything the CPC needs a cheating heel in the mold of Ric Flair and the Honky Tonk Man to further seperate itself. Thats how I see Brainstorm. |
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Post by Stu on Jan 9, 2006 15:01:34 GMT -5
Ditto on both Brainstorm and Godsend, which is why Godsend especially is the top heel in my fed. He's the Flair of the 22nd century in a lot of respects, and he's not going anywhere for me!
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Post by ThePunisher on Jan 9, 2006 22:08:32 GMT -5
I agree that it isn't necessary to have "monsters" in a fed for it to be a quality fed.
The thing I do notice about the CPC is that those who are contending for the Heavyweight title are the same wrestlers contending for the Interstellar title.
This notion leads me to think that their is a solid midcard and upper midcard but that the CPC lacks any main eventers (or showstoppers if you will).
How do you fix this? Mensar needs to be Mensar , Euritar needs to be Euritar. Rubicon, Raze, Stigma, Indigo, etc. might take their game to the next level or maybe a newcomer will take the fed by storm.
This is just a thought I had. I personally enjoy the CPC greatly and like the variation that it has from the GWF.
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Post by soug on Jan 10, 2006 0:46:49 GMT -5
when i used the term "monster" i didn't necessarily mean a big , huge wrestler. just some one who is truly feared. it just seem that the cpc doesn't have anyone like that. in the gwf , if someone is signed to fight Disaster, Endgame or a few other, they might think " sh#t!!. I'm in trouble".  |
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Post by Joe on Jan 12, 2006 19:37:50 GMT -5
2121 will bring Mensar and Euritar. That will give the CPC, most likely, two of the five best wrestlers Dimension K.
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Post by Mike M on Jan 13, 2006 9:50:52 GMT -5
Good point, Joe. I know that Tom's been reluctant to have the CPC wrestlers "outclass" GWF stars, but by allowing Mark to have Euritar and Mensar, he's opening that door.
If the two of them don't come back at or better than the level they were at in 2118, there might be a riot. To me, Endgame, Disaster, Monolith, Kill Prey, Bloodline and Encubus should be the only guys in the galaxy in their class.
My two cents....
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Post by Joe on Jan 13, 2006 15:50:44 GMT -5
I agree 100 percent, Mike.
Euritar is one of my three or four favorite guys ever, so I feel pretty strongly about the level at which he should return. If Euritar (especially) and Mensar return and are no better than Rubicon, then the CPC should be retired, because it will be clear that it is meant to be nothing more than a second-rate federation that is nowhere near the GWF's level.
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Post by Mad Dog on Jan 13, 2006 16:04:09 GMT -5
They could still see slight downgrades and still be able to completely tear through the CPC. Typically it seems like a top level CPC guy should be able to jump over to the GWF and be able to win the Interplanetary Title.
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Post by Joe on Jan 13, 2006 16:34:35 GMT -5
That may be the case about homegrown CPC talent, but Euritar and Mensar are not typical cases.
Euritar was the reigning GWF champion in the Promoter at the end of 2118. Judging from all that has been written about him, Euritar has travelled the galaxy, kicking ass all over on his way to the CPC. There is nothing to suggest that he would need a downgrade. Assuming he was between 18 and 20 when he entered the GWF, he should just be coming in to his prime and that is going by the standards of a native of Earth in 2006. Who knows how people of Euritar's planet age in 2120.
Mensar is a lot like Euritar in this respect. He debuted in 2112 and is probably pretty young. There is no reason to think either man should be due for a downgrade. One could speculate that the arrival of Euritar and Mensar will lead to an overall rise in the quality of wrestlers in the CPC. WCW certainly experienced a spike in quality upon the arrival of Hall and Nash, and this could be a similar situation.
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Post by Mad Dog on Jan 13, 2006 16:38:04 GMT -5
Even at full strength I think both still fall short of the current GWF main event. But then Raven and Jack of Diamonds updates probably could've done some damage in the GWF if given the chance.
The CPC needs the star power badly though. With Jack of Diamonds, Raven and Colossus gone they need some new faces of the promotion. Besides Monolith will probably outclass both of them.
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Post by Joe on Jan 14, 2006 13:20:21 GMT -5
We haven't seen Monolith yet, so I am not going to include him in the discussion.
Other than Encubus and Bloodline, no one else in the GWF's top level has been added or updated since Euritar was champion in 2118, and Bloodline's update is not extremely significant. Actually, a lot of talent (ex. Vyper, Max Shield, Thunder, Malice, and Eclipse) have exited since that time.
I have actually used both Euritar and Mensar at different times since New Beginning in the GWF, and both men fared very well.
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Post by BrianU on Jan 16, 2006 14:31:21 GMT -5
The CPC needs a new "Monster" or two pretty bad. They have solid mid card depth, but really lacking in main event talent. I find it hard to book a CPC card, when the best matches are between mid carders, leaving me to try and find some kind of decent main event.
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Post by GrumpyBigBee on Jan 31, 2006 8:40:48 GMT -5
Paganax did pretty well in my fed this year... he got the Heavy Weight title.
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Post by soug on Jan 31, 2006 16:49:14 GMT -5
Paganax did pretty well in my fed this year... he got the Heavy Weight title. Paganax is a beast, no doubt.But we're really talking official CPC wrestlers. |
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Though Monsters I do wonder , if Mark has built the CPC around the theory . You don't need to be a monster to be a great wrestler . I mean look at TNA X division as a example . Where Vince looks his 7 foot 400 lbs beast ? . I think more people prefer X division style because monsters can not do many moves and probably grapple or brawl more than a 20 minutes match . Keep it going Mark whatever you are doing ?
