The "Unofficial " bootleg Legends web site

[Mark 138]

I have corrected a major oversight on the Giant Machine html stats on my site! Anyone who's downloaded the word processor version knows this, but Giant Machine has a special rule that states that a wrestler must have power of at least -2 to throw him into the ropes and into the turnbuckle. Otherwise, Machine takes over on level 2 offense. This rule originally was seen in Champions Of The Galaxy for the character of Cyclopes, the One-Eyed Giant and I think it suites Andre as well.

I thought about giving Steele the add 1 for that move, but I didn't want to make him too powerful. Steele was always programmed as a guy who could give a tough match to the superstars, but he just didn't win many of them. That had a lot to do with the fact that he only wrestled part-time for most of his career (he taught school the rest of the year)and they didn't want to put him over on thier stars who would be there all year.

I have heard a major complaint that we didn't make Greg Gagne good ENOUGH, so it's all up to personal views. Chad Olson helped out on that one and we kind of deliberated on exactly how good Greg should be in relation to everyone else since he never got a chance to show what he could do nationally in a company not run by his dad.

Andre...er, Giant Machine's finisher is a little ambiguous. It is up to interpretation since he didn't have a set finish at the time. I see it as the big sit-down he used a lot. It could also be that single-arm and facelock suplex/drop he used.

I have plans to do a Honky Tonk Man card in the near future. I just need to do a drawing of him I'm happy enough with to put up on the site.

Rick Rude is my favorite heel of all-time, putting him in a dead heat with Jimmy Snuka as my favorite of all time period, so I am holding out hope that he will be part of the official game someday. Until I hear otherwise I will not make a card of him for the public. I do have a nice drawing done, though. I may just put the drawing up at some point, just because.

Boogie Woogie Man is a gimmick that also may get used in the future of the official game, so I don't want to overlap and do one first. But I am thinking of doing alternate gimmicks for the Legends that I know cannot be used for leagal reasons. That list would include Ax and King Harley Race, as well as Super Machine to go with Giant Machine (in fact, there could be a whole sub-page of Bill Eadie gimmicks I suppose.).

[Graymar]

I miss Mitch already....



Graymar

[Press Slam]

I can visualize Honky Tonk Man with guitar resting over one shoulder and his belt round the waist. I really hope we see Rick Rude in the LWF one day also, I really miss that era of wrestling but hey we still have LOW!

[Graymar]

Guitar over his shoulder is Jeff Jarrett...HTM needs to be PLAYING his guitar!

;D

Graymar

[Graymar]

Or how about...with a double hitchiker?



Graymar

[tystates]

The Power needed to throw Cyclopes into the ropes or turnbuckle was -4, not -2. A good rule to use for Andre as well. Out of the ring could be added also.

[Frank Coutinho]

If you haven't been to 'Boogie Woogie's' site it is here;

www.jimmyvaliant.com/

As you scan down there is a thread from the Roanoke Times that will allow you to see 'Boogie' in the ring and then hear him speak of his career. Of course you get the Boogies 'NYC Boy' music during your visit to his site.

[GalactiKing]

Actually for Cyclopes it was -3 not -4 or -2.

[Mark 138]

tystates said:

The Power needed to throw Cyclopes into the ropes or turnbuckle was -4, not -2. A good rule to use for Andre as well. Out of the ring could be added also.

I meant to write that the rule is fashioned after the Cyclopes rule. My rationale for adjusting the rule is that Andre as Giant Machine was not nearly as big as the character Cyclopes is supposed to be. I have seen men who would not be considered -4 power guys, but powerful nontheless(like Blackjack Mulligan), send Andre in(if he let them). As far as that not extending to out of the ring, I could imagine a man knocking Andre, or Cyclopes, off-balance and out of the ring as opposed to having to physically throw him. In fact, most have no doubt seen that happen in Giant matches as well.

[thefamoustommyz]

Troy said:

Actually for Cyclopes it was -3 not -4 or -2.

Nope...I'm stil in 2118 and thus using Cyclopes...it's -4. That said, no reason why Giant Machine needs to be held to the -4 part of it if -2 makes sense.

[GalactiKing]

Always thought it was a bit ridiculous anyways, but power's getting a little too easy to come by.

[Mark 138]

The latest addition is complete. SGT. Slaughter, the Real American Hero is now on the web site.

[Press Slam]

Excellent stuff! Those drawings are really good! I think Sgt Slaughter will make it into my other fed which I will be making soon. Since I use e-cotg I'm trying to think of ways to make up for Andres into the ropes advantage but he will make it in there too. I know giant Machine was a different character, did he use that move we were so used to seeing Andre do when he was a heel where he would stand on his opponent?

[Mark 138]

Sure, standing on, or stepping on, his opponent was a classic Andre move that he would use in all phases of his career. Heel, face, it didn't matter. The only difference was who he was stepping on! I didn't include it on Giant Machine to make it different from an Andre card, should I ever get one done.

[gwffantrav]

Once again StormRyder, great job on The Body and The Sarge. Once I get Slaughter's stats, I'll mock up the cards for Ventura and Slaughter tomorrow night at work

[GalactiKing]

Slaughter was really nice. Both drawing and stats

[Mark 138]

FYI, an error on Sarge's level 3 offense on the .html version was pointed out to me, so it has been corrected.

[Mark 138]

By special request I've added Exotic Adrian Street to the site. I had a great deal of help from former studernts of Adrian's Skullcrushers wrestling school and others with extensive knowledge of Mr. Street and his career to ensure that the moveset is as accurate as possible.

[gwffantrav]

Either Mark or Cyndi, what other surprises do you guys have in store?

BTW Mark, love the Exotic one!

[Mark 138]

Well Trav, this is the thread for my web site, Legendary Stars, so I can only speak for what myself. Cynthia has created a thread for her yahoo group elsewhere on the board. All I can say is that the next addition will show up sometime in the middle of the week and will most likely be Ricky Steamboat. You'll notice I'm only getting about one every week to ten days since it takes a while to do the necessary research and consult with other people familiar with the wrestler in question to make sure they're as accurate as possible.