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Post by GalactiKing on Nov 16, 2004 21:27:34 GMT -5
Just a few casual thoughts for 2120 and beyond
Colby and Pelf will be looking to sell maybe even to Michiko.
Collector will mention if not introduce an Assistant who will take over the Workshop eventually.
The Czar will recruit a new manager/bodyguard to the team to replace the Collector
Barnabas will introduce a new creation that ends up turning on him. This will lead to a big feud for Rubicon.
Jack and Gunnar will become a full time team, Exo-King will retire, Zed may drop the Prince. Mike Fortune will move teams sooner or later.
Scion Nexus will form his own team, not necessarily Titans.
Brainstorm will continue to feel underappreciated.
Jesterelli will retire. Dante will move to a major team, Vidtek will change images but probably never move past midcard status. Comedy may or may not leave when Jesterelli does.
When Dar Gova and Company and Thayne and Viggo return, there will be differences. Perhaps even an alliance.
Talisman will have a big surprise up his sleeve. Possible destination for Vidtek when Stage breaks up.
Punks will still surprise people with their success.
J.J. Smooth will show he has a slight bit of talent, but will more likely be the next Crush than the next Ursa Major. Olivia will still think he's the best.
At least one major GWF star will jump to the CPC by 2121.
Saboteur's return will be nearly mindblowing, and will have a killer update and a great reason why he was away so long.
Mensar will finally return and petition Prell to let him team up with Mike Fortune.
Prell will drive the new owner nuts because he won't be a lapdog.
That's it for now.
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Post by Darth Turkish on Nov 17, 2004 19:43:34 GMT -5
That stuff sounds pretty good!
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Post by Swarm on Nov 17, 2004 20:45:30 GMT -5
If Mensar comes back to the CPC (where he already was) to team with Mike Fortune (which he already could have done) then the WWE creative team must be writing the next CPC set.
Mensar and Cordanus (as a wrestler) are best utilized in the GWF as a top-tier tag team.
If Vin Strutter was really the character he was written to be, this would have happened long ago when he was battling the Gladiators.
Mensar and the way his character has been handled is right up there with the Alpha Stone as far as dropping the ball in GWF History is concerned.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Nov 17, 2004 21:05:54 GMT -5
The problem with Mensar is he's never had more than a glimmer of a character. Cordanus has always been his "character".
Mensar is no Chaos, make no mistake. The two are light years apart, Alpha Stone or no...because Chaos never got "overshadowed" until his move into a full time tag role, and even then Alpha Power DOMINATED in my fed.
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Post by Swarm on Nov 17, 2004 21:13:52 GMT -5
The Mensar debate has been beaten to death, but you are 100% right.
Mensar was the muscle, Cordanus was the mouth-piece.
There could be an argument that Brute (early GWF) and Massacre were just like that.
And Overkill's lack of personality WAS his personality, which is how I often looked at Mensar.
I just really, really loved these two characters and miss them very much. I know I'm not alone and would very much like to see them back in the GWF as a tag-team.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Nov 17, 2004 21:25:52 GMT -5
Overkill did play silent but violent better than any GWF character.
I don't know if I really wanna see Cordanus wrestle fulltime...hm. I wouldn't be OPPOSED to it...but I'm definitely not clamoring for it.
That said, I'm with ya on missing them since I had a BLAST with the Takeover era. But I just disagree on Mensar being mishandled in the CPC since in my CPC 2117 fed (where I am now) he has even surpassed Raven as the TOP wrestler in the company...a level of dominance he never achieved for me in the GWF.
His battles with Colossus and Jack of Diamonds are instant classics, while his matches with Paragon are...not.
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Post by Nemecys on Nov 18, 2004 4:44:17 GMT -5
I loved the Mensar storyline. He seemed like he would do anything to get boos, knowing he had the boss in his corner. When I practically handed him the title (first time ever but it fit the storyline), he would defend against managers and lower card wrestlers while face main eventers in non title matches. It was great! He an Cordanus in Takeover were the heart of my favorite GWF storyline since Colossus turning Villain and running roughshot over the fed.
Still I agree that Mensar doesn't fit in with CPC. Sorry to do this, Mark, but he seems like just one of the guys, like Bret Hart was when he entered the WCW. Maybe Mark had a special plan for him that he never got to fully execute because Tom wanted him back (I have a hard time believing that the creator of the OFC and Faithful Crusade/Agents feud could screw up Mensar who basically sells himself...had to be outside things involved). Whatever the reason, he never quite fit in with the federation, unless he was at the top with his boss running the show.
As for 2120, I'm hoping for a new Ahnu; my buddy needs an upgrade, Mark, at least a small one to his level 3 offense. Please?
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Post by Joe on Nov 18, 2004 4:46:06 GMT -5
A few random opinions about what has been on this thread so far.
I remember the quote from Mensar in one of the Sudden Death books about loving to be hated, and how he would do anything to get the fans to boo him. I always thought that showed a little personality, and I ran with that for him.
I would love to see a return of Cordanus and Mensar to somewhere, preferably the GWF. To be honest, the GWF is a little on the bland side in 2119, and a return to power of Cordanus is the breath of life that it needs. Play off the idea that the GWF did its best business during the Takeover era and that is why Cordanus is being brought back to the company.
I hope the future is bright for Vidtek and Dante. They are two of my favorites in the CPC. While I have always been a fan of both the Mad Jester and the Theatre of Pain, it is nearing the time for Jesterelli and Comedy to pack it in.
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Post by Trent Lawless on Nov 18, 2004 6:05:23 GMT -5
There was a definite longer term plan for Mensar had the Brains and Brawn team won the mini Sudden Death against the Suite, but that obviously didn't pan out. My backup plan was to have him take at least a year off, but then Tom mentioned that he might want him back, so he's been in limbo for a bit. Not that I wouldn't want him, because I was quite happy to get him and Cordanus when Tom offered them up to me, but I agree with many here who say they're a better fit on the GWF side of things.
And you can be sure that Dante and Vidtek will go on to other things, while Comedy has received his last update. Jesterelli? I may keep him around in another capacity. He's a fun bit of comic relief.
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Post by Mad Dog on Nov 18, 2004 7:55:17 GMT -5
I'd like to see Archon show up for a few years.
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Post by Trent Lawless on Nov 19, 2004 15:43:18 GMT -5
Actually, Archon was a candidate to come over at the same time as Scion Nexus, to join the OFC, but he was cut to keep overall league numbers down. I doubt he'll be making an appearance at this point, but stranger things have happened!
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IPPON!!
