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Post by swarm on Aug 31, 2006 19:54:14 GMT -5
I think Vince will debut Monty in high fashion and put him right out there with the stars in a big angle.
I can't even imagine how relieved poor Monty Brown must be right now. Good for him!
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Post by blueraider1 on Aug 31, 2006 19:56:10 GMT -5
start him out slowly and go from there.
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Post by BDS on Aug 31, 2006 20:02:06 GMT -5
I like the Umaga idea. If Monty keeps that "Serengetti" bit in his gimmick, I can see him hunting Umaga like an animal. The promo work with Monty and Estrada would be cool, too.
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Post by Wildfire on Aug 31, 2006 20:22:04 GMT -5
I was about to tell you guys you were crazy.. Vince NEVER lets guys from other feds make an impact, but then Jeff Hardy just waltzed in and got an IC title shot, so maybe you're not crazy.
While I don't watch Smackdown really, a top feud of Cena-Monty Brown sounds pretty good.
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Post by pikemojo on Sept 1, 2006 0:06:47 GMT -5
I like the idea of him beating Umaga but I have a feeling that that honor will be saved for Cena.
Here is how I would book it. Monty comes in and wins a few matches real quick like. Maybe 3 matches in after Monty has demolished all in front of him Umaga attacks from behind and hits the thumb to the throat. Monty of course challenges him to a match at the next ppv. Umaga beats him. The rematch at the next ppv and Monty gets the win.
Monty would really be a great fit on Raw or Smackdown but I really don't think he would work in ECW. Perfect fit for WWE overall though.
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Post by Splattercat on Sept 1, 2006 7:49:42 GMT -5
I was about to tell you guys you were crazy.. Vince NEVER lets guys from other feds make an impact, but then Jeff Hardy just waltzed in and got an IC title shot, so maybe you're not crazy. While I don't watch Smackdown really, a top feud of Cena-Monty Brown sounds pretty good. The WWE Hardy is Old School though, no green paint, or anything dumb like that...That's Team Extreme Hardy right there...Meaning, he's the Jeff Hardy that E built...  Re: Monty. At first I liked the Umaga idea as well, but then after I thought about it, I don't want Monty to be...I don't want to say 'stereotyped' or 'pigeonholed'...I don't want him stuck in an over the top "hunter gimmick"... That being said I think what they should do is take the Jericho approach: Let him come in and talk...Pick someone on the roster, and berate them into unconciousness... Everyone knew Jericho was an underused mountain of money inked with charisma, and the WWE debuted him appropriately: They put him against their current mountain of money inked with charisma...I don't want to see Monty come in and start something with Triple H, but if you recall, while Jericho's first promo was with the Rock, his first feud wasn't... As I said in the Monty thread, ultimately I think he should come in and turn Lashley heel...If Cena goes to Smackdown, a Lashley/Monty combination would be awesome antagonists... Plus, putting Lashley with Monty (as a stable, not necessarily a tag team mind you) would probably be good for Lashley too...Maybe he could learn a few promo-related things...  |
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Post by BDS on Sept 1, 2006 8:06:32 GMT -5
Re: Monty. At first I liked the Umaga idea as well, but then after I thought about it, I don't want Monty to be...I don't want to say 'stereotyped' or 'pigeonholed'...I don't want him stuck in an over the top "hunter gimmick"... Well, I'd like it! C'mon, he'd be like a real-life Kill Prey. A massive, srangely eloquent Kill Prey, but a real-life Kill Prey nonetheless. |
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Post by swarm on Sept 1, 2006 8:06:36 GMT -5
Re: Monty. At first I liked the Umaga idea as well, but then after I thought about it, I don't want Monty to be...I don't want to say 'stereotyped' or 'pigeonholed'...I don't want him stuck in an over the top "hunter gimmick"... Why would he be being "stereotyped" if he were to basically be allowed to keep the gimmick he already has? The gimmick he created for himself?Because it's Vince? I'm a firm believer that stereotypes in wrestling really only bothers people if they are either closet racists, uncomfortable with their own race, or hate Vince and over-analyze everything he does... I don't know about anyone else but I've never been bothered by any white stereotypes in wrestling. |
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Post by Vidtek on Sept 1, 2006 8:27:03 GMT -5
Swarm, didn't you have a problem with Cena's "white guy trying to be black rapper" thing? Not to start anything between us (again) but.....
So why this talk of MOnty going to the E? Why would you, Swarm, support him if he did? Haven't you said that TNA is full of talentless loosers and WWE/WCW cast offs who wouldn't last in today's WWE ring? How is Monty now acceptable? Has he actually signed on? Is he even gone officialy from TNA?
Oh and just to let you know, I think the whole Alpha Male thing against Uuuuuuumaaagaaaaaa would be cool. He would be more like Bounty Hunter then Kill-Prey (he has more of BH's build) but it would be pretty cool. Not sure if I'd let him end the streak though, but that's not up to me.
Big Time
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Post by swarm on Sept 1, 2006 8:30:55 GMT -5
Swarm, didn't you have a problem with Cena's "white guy trying to be black rapper" thing? Not to start anything between us (again) but..... So why this talk of MOnty going to the E? Why would you, Swarm, support him if he did? Haven't you said that TNA is full of talentless loosers and WWE/WCW cast offs who wouldn't last in today's WWE ring? How is Monty now acceptable? Has he actually signed on? Is he even gone officialy from TNA? Oh and just to let you know, I think the whole Alpha Male thing against Uuuuuuumaaagaaaaaa would be cool. He would be more like Bounty Hunter then Kill-Prey (he has more of BH's build) but it would be pretty cool. Not sure if I'd let him end the streak though, but that's not up to me. Big Time Nope. Never had a problem with Cena. He has been my favorite wrestler for a long time... Nope. Never said TNA was full of talentless bums...some of them are, but mostly it's just that the company sucks. |
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Post by Vidtek on Sept 1, 2006 8:41:19 GMT -5
I do Swarm, but when you talk, others talk to, so it's hard to keep track sometimes. All the threads start running together in my head.....it's almost like trying to follow Kane's history by now....but just to let you know I do read your stuff as well as others and appologize for getting it all mixed up. I have had very little sleep.
Big Time
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Post by swarm on Sept 1, 2006 9:10:14 GMT -5
I do Swarm, but when you talk, others talk to, so it's hard to keep track sometimes. All the threads start running together in my head.....it's almost like trying to follow Kane's history by now....but just to let you know I do read your stuff as well as others and appologize for getting it all mixed up. I have had very little sleep. Big Time it's cool. |
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Post by offspring515 on Sept 1, 2006 13:48:45 GMT -5
So...white people who rap are trying to be black now?
I could see that in 1986, but it's 2006. Hip Hop has crossed over into the mainstream, and more than a few of the people on the hip hop charts are white, hispanic, etc.
I mean my God...Justin Timberlake is putting out hip hop inspired songs....and it doesn't get much more lilly white than Justin Timberlake.
/rant
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Post by BDS on Sept 1, 2006 13:59:50 GMT -5
How is it that race even got into this thread, anyway?
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Post by Wildfire on Sept 1, 2006 15:35:27 GMT -5
The WWE Hardy is Old School though, no green paint, or anything dumb like that...That's Team Extreme Hardy right there...Meaning, he's the Jeff Hardy that E built... That's true, that must be the difference... Although I think he started the green paint in WWE, after the Hardy Boys were split. As for Monty doing the Jericho thing, I'm not sure he's good enough on the stick for that, but it would work if he could pull it off. The Jericho promo on the Rock where he join the E is one of my faves,well, ever. |
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Post by Wildfire on Sept 1, 2006 15:37:54 GMT -5
I do Swarm, but when you talk, others talk to, so it's hard to keep track sometimes. All the threads start running together in my head.....it's almost like trying to follow Kane's history by now....but just to let you know I do read your stuff as well as others and appologize for getting it all mixed up. I have had very little sleep. Big Time Wow, people resolving an argument in less then 10 pages, that's crazy! Here I was all ready to defend Swarm for, like, the first time ever too. |
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Post by gwffantrav on Sept 1, 2006 21:42:43 GMT -5
Personally, I never saw much in Brown. I think you'll see him exposed like Tyrus Thomas in the Final Four if he shows up in the WWE. But still, who's to even say he goes.
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Post by gatekeeper on Sept 1, 2006 22:54:06 GMT -5
I'm going with debuting in ECW. With the loss of Kurt Angle, this would open up a good spot at the top tier of the ECW roster.
Eventually to Raw.
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Post by Splattercat on Sept 2, 2006 0:18:27 GMT -5
Re: Monty. At first I liked the Umaga idea as well, but then after I thought about it, I don't want Monty to be...I don't want to say 'stereotyped' or 'pigeonholed'...I don't want him stuck in an over the top "hunter gimmick"... Why would he be being "stereotyped" if he were to basically be allowed to keep the gimmick he already has? The gimmick he created for himself?Because it's Vince? I'm a firm believer that stereotypes in wrestling really only bothers people if they are either closet racists, uncomfortable with their own race, or hate Vince and over-analyze everything he does... I don't know about anyone else but I've never been bothered by any white stereotypes in wrestling. Okay, I knew that line was going to bother someone...ANYONE really...That's why I couldn't pick an appropriate word for it...I didn't mean Stereotype...What I meant was, I don't want to see him come in specifically to "hunt" Umaga, and then after he beats him, he gets lost in the shuffle... Basically what I don't want to see is Monty's debut (and thus, possibly career) built solely around another superstar....it worked for Kane*, and pretty much no-one else...Putting Monty against Umaga is grand, but I see that as something to build towards...You know, let him get his name out there first...Rather than, "First Order of Business: End Umaga's Streak"... But yeah, there was nothing against WWE, Vince or Monty, or the African-American people...I just didn't want to explain it all like that... ;D *By worked for him, I mean, Kane is NOW a seperate entity...But look how many times they came back to Kane vs. Undertaker over his career... |
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Post by pikemojo on Sept 2, 2006 2:12:03 GMT -5
Tazz also came into WWE and ended Angle's streak. He wasn't exactly built around Angle but it is a similar situation. Monty could come in and within a few months be the one to beat Umaga and then still have a career. He could almost come in and have his own little undefeated streak only to be ended by Umaga. Now that would be a hot feud. Eat that WWE writers.
For the record Swarm has always supported Cena. I believe it was RingsYde who often spoke out against Cena's gimmick. He had decent enough reasoning though so whatever.
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