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Post by Mad Dog on Oct 14, 2006 14:57:00 GMT -5
So I thought I'd throw him a cupcake in Grovel. Boy was that a mistake. One of those add 1 moves and a snake eyes roll and I was beating my head on the table. Hopefully Exodus does better next time around.
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Post by Thad Killian on Oct 14, 2006 15:19:56 GMT -5
don't hold your breath...Exodus, for being a enlightened being and for the role that he has, is kinda is a wuss...terrible...terrible card...sorry Kris...
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Post by krisosk on Oct 14, 2006 15:39:32 GMT -5
Tommy, I couldn't agree more...wish I had final edit on the aCe cards. BUT! No worries - there will be a legit fix in 2121. It will fit storyline-wise and even more importantly, it should take Exodus to the top where he belongs. ...and no, I'm not just going to doctor his stats. It's much, much more than that. So for now, play it out. Godsend and company are just too strong for the angel. But calling Ex a wuss becaue he rolled snake-eyes against Grovel? Come on now, that's a bit much. I've rolled "snake-eyes" plenty of times in my life...haven't you?  ~ :-Xsk |
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Post by dharneth on Oct 14, 2006 15:43:25 GMT -5
Well since turning to a more "Entertainment" style for my feds, some wrestlers I wouldn't have thought would make it to the top have...for example Dante was my GWF champion for a while because of using underhanded tactics to win. In Exodus' case I would attribute the lose to Grovel as inexperience and being unprepared for the savagery that Grovel can bring.
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Post by Mad Dog on Oct 14, 2006 15:51:00 GMT -5
Coming into the fight Grovel was 1-10 with a win over Rouser I think. Oh well. I'll throw him Noxious and see if he can rebound a little.
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Post by GalactiKing on Oct 14, 2006 16:29:12 GMT -5
I do hope Exodus gets stronger as I love the storyline for him.
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Post by MikeMcKinney on Oct 14, 2006 16:40:40 GMT -5
Exodus has a sub par card (the art is awesome) his stats need some improving if he thinks he can hang with Godsend and the boys.
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Post by Wildfire on Oct 14, 2006 23:05:14 GMT -5
How strong did you intend him to be? IMO, he's the 4 best guy on ROC, not exactly what you'd expect from an angel decending from heaven
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Post by Knapik on Oct 15, 2006 3:15:34 GMT -5
Maybe the transition (not being able to use all of his powers) has weakened him. That's the way I see it. Godsend can't use all of his powers either, right?
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Post by BDS on Oct 15, 2006 7:01:29 GMT -5
How strong did you intend him to be? IMO, he's the 4 best guy on ROC, not exactly what you'd expect from an angel decending from heaven Who do you have above him other than Aegis and Shepard, Wildfire? |
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Post by krisosk on Oct 15, 2006 11:16:57 GMT -5
I intended him to be at or slightly above Aegis' level.
I DID want Godsend to be the top guy (statistically), so at least that turned out right.
I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but there were a few things altered on Exodus' card that really chopped him down in stature.
Two major things I can think of right off the bat:
Kingdom Come was an Add 1
Another Down 3 was added to Level 3 D
~ :-Xsk
PS - and oh yeah, Wildfire, who DO you consider above Ex on the ROC other than Aegis and Shep?
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Post by BDS on Oct 15, 2006 13:14:36 GMT -5
The two biggest problems I have with Exodus are with WRATH OF GOD and wtih his Ring rating. It can be awful hard to hit WRATH OF GOD, and against someone with an A ropes rating (like his arch-nemesis) it's farily likely to be a reversal if it misses. And with the bad ring rating, he doesn't have the same opportunity for reversal when he gets his down (lv) like someone with an A rating (like his arch-nemesis). I think he's got a solid, but not spectacular card as it is right now.
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Post by incognito on Oct 15, 2006 13:55:03 GMT -5
His C ring rating does drag down his card a little, but not only doesn't he break the rules, he doesn't take me as someone who bends the rules either. So it fits the character.
Maybe, I'll use Kingdom come as an add 1 move, and see what happens. It would be the first time I used a stat different from whats on the card.
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Post by BDS on Oct 15, 2006 16:01:44 GMT -5
His C ring rating does drag down his card a little, but not only doesn't break the rules, he doesn't take me as someone who bends the rules either. So it fits the character. Maybe, I'll use Kingdom come as an add 1 move, and see what happens. I agree that the C Ring rating is definitely in character, you'll get no argument from me on that one. I just think it drags him down quite a bit for someone of the caliber he's supposed to be. |
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Post by GalactiKing on Oct 15, 2006 17:29:07 GMT -5
It does hurt a bit. I think his finisher though is the main issue. With no add 1, a weak finisher that too often ends up in the ropes kills him.
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Post by Wildfire on Oct 15, 2006 20:19:49 GMT -5
How strong did you intend him to be? IMO, he's the 4 best guy on ROC, not exactly what you'd expect from an angel decending from heaven Who do you have above him other than Aegis and Shepard, Wildfire? I'd put Shepard first, then Aegis, then Lance slightly above Exodus...I'm suprised you wouldn't agree, give the success he's had for you |
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Post by GalactiKing on Oct 15, 2006 21:24:16 GMT -5
I'm not sure I'd put Shepherd over Aegis though it's close. Shepherd is another guy though who can be very inconsistent. Aegis has picked it up I t hink with the new battle armor rule. It helps him against several wrestlers.
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Post by BDS on Oct 15, 2006 22:49:54 GMT -5
I'd go Shepard over Aegis. I think Shepard's got a better offense overall, with the lack of ways to "give away" offense compared to Aegis and the better L2O to more make up for an add 1 and a slightly more powerful finsiher for Aegis. On defense they're virtually identical, with Aegis having just that smidge lower PIN. If someone wanted to argue the other way, though, I wouldn't be too picky about it - they're both great cards.
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Post by BDS on Oct 15, 2006 22:53:46 GMT -5
I'd put Shepard first, then Aegis, then Lance slightly above Exodus...I'm suprised you wouldn't agree, give the success he's had for you Exodus is way better than Lance - even I have to admit that one, ridiculous title run for Lance aside. |
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Post by GalactiKing on Oct 15, 2006 23:07:31 GMT -5
Yeah, same here. LAL did have a good title run for me, but since then, he's been losing to guys all over the place especially to Noxious.
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