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Post by LWPD on Nov 15, 2006 18:46:02 GMT -5
It's almost that time again...
Live on PPV Saturday November 18th 11 PM EST
Courtesy of Wrestling Observer
UFC line-up and match order for Saturday night's PPV from the Arco Arena in Sacramento:
Prelim matches Josh Shockman vs. Jake O'Brien Hector Ramirez vs. James Irvin Antoni Hardonk vs. Sherman Pendergarst Gleison Tibau vs. Nick Diaz
Live fights in order
Dokonjonosuke Mishima vs. Joe Stevenson Brandon Vera vs. Frank Mir Tim Sylvai vs. Jeff Monson for the heavyweight title Drew McFedrie vs. Alessio Sakara Matt Hughes vs. Georges St. Pierre for the welterweight title
LWPD (this card looks very strong on paper...can't wait to watch it)
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Post by Avarice on Nov 16, 2006 9:51:20 GMT -5
I agree...hopefully we'll see Joe pull through and show us that he's worth of his TUF contract...Haven't seen much of him since he's won. I'm hoping GSP wins, for some reason I want to see Hughes go down. I like him, but he's just too cocky and all. JMO. Like you said though, should be a good card.
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Post by vansabu on Nov 16, 2006 12:03:20 GMT -5
Hughes deserves to be cocky, that guy is dominating, the best ? Maybe not, but very very good. I sure would be cocky /confident. GSP is awesome also, gonna be a awesome fight.
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Post by Knapik on Nov 16, 2006 12:17:50 GMT -5
I had a dream last night that I tapped out GSP. If I can do it, Hughes can do it
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Post by Darth Turkish on Nov 16, 2006 12:58:05 GMT -5
I had a dream last night that I tapped out GSP. If I can do it, Hughes can do it That pretty funny!
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Post by habbalah on Nov 17, 2006 6:15:57 GMT -5
I had a dream last night that I tapped out GSP. If I can do it, Hughes can do it Must be the cat avatar. It's a little known fact that canadians are deathly afraid of cats in silly outfits. (I need sleep, I think it looks great and If you ever get rid of it I want to steal it lol).
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Post by LWPD on Nov 17, 2006 18:46:26 GMT -5
Here's a look at the fights which should air on tomorrow's main card:
Courtesy of Wrestling Observer
*Joe Stevenson vs Dokonjonosuke Mishima - Former Ultimate Fighter champ against sometime Japanese pro wrestler (U-Style) and Pride fighter. Mishima was known for having exciting fights in Japan, but not for beating top guys. That's the perfect recipe here, as UFC wants a strong opener, and would also like to see Stevenson win, as he's favored to do. Mishima's only four losses have been to Din Thomas, Yves Edwards, Ralph Gracie and Takanori Gomi, and he's beaten Marcus Aurelio and Masakazu Imanari, who are both current Pride stars. By no means is this a cake walk for Stevenson, who will want to use his wrestling to take the fight to the ground.
*Brandon Vera vs. Frank Mir - The question is which Mir will show up. The Mir who has shown up the last two times, losing to Marcio Cruz and barely beating Dan Christison, both in matches he was supposed to win handily, will get killed, destroyed and mutilated by Vera. In condition, Mir is a physically bigger and stronger man. Vera will beat him standing, and if recent fights are any indication, should kill him in the stamina department. I've got to expect Vera by knockout, and that will lead to Vera challenging the Tim Sylvia-Jeff Monson winner
*Tim Sylvia vs. Jeff Monson for the heavyweight title - No secrets here. Sylvia is 6-8 265. Monson is maybe 5-9 and 235. If Monson can get it to the ground, he should be able to dominate. Sylvia has been shown to be susceptible to submissions, and that is Monson's forte. Standing, Sylvia will knock Monson out just due to the reach. But it may not be automatic. Monson fought Chuck Liddell a few years back and could never get Liddell down, but lasted three rounds of being blistered with low kicks andpeppered with punches, and Liddell hits hard. I keep seeing Sylvia with a Tra Telligman like finish, the highlight reel roundhouse kick.
*Drew McFedries vs. Alessio Sakara - I don't know much about McFedries except he's a Miletich guy with a 4-1 record, who lost to Nate Quarry in 2001. Sakara is a good boxer and based on experience, if it stays standing, should be the favorite
*Matt Hughes vs. Georges St. Pierre - St. Pierre should win. He has more skill than Hughes. He's younger, not quite as strong, but he manhandled Frank Trigg, and came back to beat B.J. Penn. I sense this being a long fight, and in the end, skill will probably not be the deciding factor. I sense stamina, and that is impossible to judge who will have the edge, other than St. Pierre is younger, but Hughes is a machine. The other key is mental. I don't think St. Pierre can mentally break Hughes. B.J. Penn dominated Hughes for two rounds and couldn't break him. When the going gets tough, we'll find out if St. Pierre is the man he says he is, or the "boy" who had more skill than Hughes two years ago when they fought, but still lost via submission. A lot of big UFC fights are more hype than substance, in that they are big personalities but not necessarily the two top guys facing for a championship. This fight delivers both. It should do huge numbers--however, HBO boxing also has a fight that delivers both going head-to-head.
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Post by habbalah on Nov 18, 2006 4:22:13 GMT -5
Again with the boxing thing. *Yawns.*
The brake down goes with all the safe bets (with perhaps Joe being the only brake away). I mean I've done the same thing I just want to mention that.
It's like this I'm picking Joe, Vera, Jeff Monson, Alessio Sakara, and Matt Hughes.
I'm picking Joe because of his stunning win over Yves edwards. I'm picking Vera cause he's funny, .likeable and fun to watch and I hate Frank Mir with every fiber of my being. In fact if Vera loses I will be at a all time low.
I'm picking Jeff because, for the longest time I argued with people about Tim being the real deal. That one day given half a chance he could make it back to the promise land. He did and after hearing him talk I wish he'd go right back again. Jeff has everything to be in the right place at the right time.
Sure he might not last as champ, but please baby shine just once for Magog.
As for Hughes hay GSP is great. Honestly and truely. But when Hughes does lose I want it to be a upset. I want it to be to someone with out legions of mma fans. Serra, Diaz, Karo.. oh sure they have a fallowing but GSP has a cult.
I want to puke hearing about how GSP should win this from almost everyone. I hope Matt straight up owns him than talks volumes of smack just to knock the masses down a notch. War Hughes.
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Post by LWPD on Nov 18, 2006 8:48:20 GMT -5
Courtesy of bettormma.com
In sports some events just have the "feel" and UFC 65 has that "feel" to it.Saturday night will mark the fifth time that Matt Hughes has defended the Welterweight title since he initially won it from Georges St. Pierre after BJ Penn had vacated the title during a contract dispute.....
Inside The Number: UFC 65 Preview By Tony Sands BettorMMA.com Consultant
UFC Welterweight Championship Matt Hughes -130 Georges St. Pierre +120
Matt Hughes comes in to this fight looking to cement himself as the greatest Mixed Martial Artist that has ever graced the Octagon. Hughes is coming off the greatest win of his career at UFC 63 when he came back from being dominated by BJ Penn and stopped him with strikes midway through the third round. Hughes continues to evolve as the years go by as his stand up and submission skills have caught up to his wrestling base to form what may be the Ultimate Fighter.
Georges St. Pierre is the new breed of Mixed Martial Artist as he combines a number of disciplines with his naturally gifted power and speed to create a fighter that is nearly impossible to game plan for. Since losing to Hughes in October of 2004, GSP has gone on to defeat a who's who of the Welterweight class including Jason "Mayhem" Miller, Frank Trigg, current UFC Lightweight title holder Sean Sherk, and most recently BJ Penn.
Inside The Number Says: This is one of the most evenly matched fights that I have ever seen and the odds indicate that as well. Surprisingly GSP is being bet heavily as it was the opposite way in the originally scheduled fight in September. GSP fared exceptionally well against Hughes the first time they fought but a lack of concentration cost him the title. I think immaturity will catch up with GSP again as he will show Hughes too much respect and in the end it will affect his overall game plan. Physically there isn't a fighter as gifted as GSP but the same can be said for Hughes on the cerebral side of the fight game. I look for Hughes to endure an early fury from GSP and win either by late stoppage or a dominating unanimous decision. It amazes me that a five time defending champion can be bought at -130 against a guy he defeated just two years prior. Look for Hughes backers to start showing up soon and push the number up. Hughes by stoppage in 4th RD.
UFC Heavyweight Championship Tim Sylvia -260 Jeff Monson +240
A little over a year ago Tim Sylvia was barely hanging on to past glory as a former UFC champion but he hung on and has totally reconstructed his career. Sylvia won the world title in February of 2003 as he knocked out Ricco Rodriguez as a nearly 5-1 underdog. Sylvia then proceeded to successfully defend the title once before he had his arm broken by Frank Mir in June of 2004. Sylvia returned to the Octagon in February of 2005 and was knocked out by Andrei Arlovski in a fight that many believe he took to quickly coming off as serious of an injury as he sustained. Sylvia started from scratch after the loss and began training with famed MMA dietician Billy Rush. Rush revitalized Sylvia's career as "The Maineiac" developed a new level of flexibility and hand speed that propelled him to wins against Tra Tellingman and Assuerio Silva before winning the title back from Arlovski in April of this year. Sylvia would win a unanimous decision against Arlovski in a July rematch, which many considered to be a huge upset. Sylvia is entering the prime of his career and a win here would reinforce his status as one of the top heavyweight fighters in the world.
A few years ago Jeff Monson was a struggling light heavyweight who had just suffered back-to-back losses to Chuck Liddell and Forrest Griffin when he began a career renaissance. Monson put on over thirty-five pounds of muscle and became one of the most feared heavyweight grapplers in the world while training with the American Top Team in Florida. Monson reentered the big show at UFC 57 when he defeated Brandon Lee Hinkle by a rarely seen North South Choke. The next time we would see Monson in the Octagon would be UFC 59 where he defeated Marcio Cruz by Split Decision. UFC 61 would be Monson's chance to display the skills he had developed professionally boxing as he knocked out Anthony Perosh in what would be his final tune up to fight for the title. Monson has gained a little bit of cult notoriety as he is extremely outspoken regarding his communist viewpoints and the current presidency campaign of George W. Bush.
Inside The Number Says: If Monson can get this fight to the ground then he has a good chance of finishing it but I think the chances of that happening are much higher than the 2 ½-1 that is being offered. Monson first will have to get close enough to take Sylvia down and then once he gets there submit him. Sylvia has underrated takedown defense and will be able to get in a shot or two before anyone is able to take him to the mat. Sylvia has seen the canvas twice in his UFC career and I don't see Monson being able to knock him down as Arlovski did or Sylvia taking Monson down as he did against Mir. Look for Monson to show some good defense standing until Sylvia finds his range and lands the eventual knockout. Sylvia seems to get bet against heavy on the day of the fight and if the trend continues, you may be able to find some excellent value on the favorite. Sylvia by KO in RD 2.
Brandon Vera -300 Frank Mir +275
Brandon Vera has taken the UFC by storm as last October he made his debut by knocking out Fabiano Scherner and proclaiming himself the future Heavyweight and Light heavyweight champion. Chuck Liddell and others laughed but the laughs have now ceased as Vera has gone on to knockout Justin Eilers in February and submit Pride mainstay Assuerio Silva at UFC 60. Vera is the protégé of kickboxing legend Rob Kaman and also possesses an imposing submission arsenal. Vera will look to impress, as a win against ex champion Mir will bolster his status as the number one contender in the Heavyweight division.
Frank Mir has seen the highs and lows of the Octagon and right now would be the lowest point of his career. Just over two years ago Mir was the heavyweight champion who had just snapped the arm of Tim Sylvia in two. Three months after winning the title, Mir would crash his motorcycle and do damage to his leg that many think he has never recovered from. Mir made his return the Octagon at UFC 57 where he was ground and pounded by relative unknown Marcio Cruz. Mir would make a second appearance for 2006 in July where he won the closest of decisions against journeyman fighter Dan Christison. Mir was in serious trouble during the fight as Christison got extremely close to finishing him with an armbar. Reports out of Las Vegas say that Mir has rededicated himself to training but only time will tell if his body is still capable of absorbing that type of abuse.
Inside The Number Says: Two years ago this would be a dream fight. Frank Mir for a time was one of the most exciting fighters in the UFC as no American heavyweight had ever been so swift and fluid on the ground. Those days are long gone though as the Mir we once knew was lost in the motorcycle accident. Vera will pick apart Mir standing while waiting for Mir to gas so that he can land what may be the final blow to Mir's career. I expect a dramatic change in odds after the weigh in at 3PM on Friday afternoon where bettors will get to see what type of shape Mir is in. Vera by KO in RD 1.
Joe Stevenson -240 Dokonjonosuke Mishima +220
Joe "Daddy" Stevenson was the winner of the TUF 2 Welterweight division but tasted defeat early in his UFC career as he lost to Josh Neer in his first fight outside of the TUF series. Stevenson was then moved to the lightweight division where he fought Yves Edwards in his first fight. Stevenson did not disappoint and he bloodied the veteran Edwards and eventually won a stoppage. Stevenson looks to be a force in the lightweight division and a win here would put him at contender status.
Dokonjonosuke Mishima is making his first appearance in the UFC but he is by no means a rookie. Mishima is a veteran of the Japanese organizations and holds a win over Marcus Aurelio amongst others. Mishima brings an exciting jiu-jitsu game to the Octagon and will give anyone he faces a fierce encounter. Mishima has the skills to upset anyone in the world and a win here would skyrocket his name in the American market.
Inside The Number Says: Stevenson needs this win. Mishima is a tempting play at +220 but I don't think his style will match up well with the multi faceted Stevenson. Look for Stevenson to push the pace and get the eventual ground and pound victory. Stevenson by 2nd RD TKO.
Hector Ramirez -155 James Irvin +145
Hector Ramirez comes from a wrestling background in Southern California and the only loss in his MMA career is to TUF 2 heavyweight winner Rashad Evans. Ramirez has worked on his stand up over the years with Colin Oyama and The Team Oyama camp and does not mind leaving the fight standing.
James Irvin is a veteran of the UFC who has a record of 1-2 inside the Octagon. Irvin suffered a brutal KO loss to Mike Kyle at UFC 51 but came back to knock out Terry Martin with a flying knee at UFC 54. Martin dominated Irvin for the entire first round of the fight but Irvin survived and landed a beautiful flying knee in the opening seconds of the second stanza that left Martin unconscious. Irvin returned to face Stephan Bonnar in January of this year and was submitted quickly with a kimura. Earlier this year Irvin was also defeated by TUF 1 veteran Lodune Sincaid in the WEC and fought Bobby Southworth to a No Contest.
Inside The Number Says: Irvin has no business being back in the Octagon. He is a bar fighter with a bodybuilders physique who holds his hands at his waist while exchanging. Ramirez should dominate this both standing and on the ground. Some books opened Ramirez as a +135 underdog, which shocked many insiders. Look for Ramirez to finish this late in the first rd. Ramirez by KO in RD 1.
Alessio Sakara -500 Drew McFedries +450
Alessio Sakara makes his return to the Octagon for the first time after being dominated by Dean Lister at UFC 60. Sakara was exposed as a fighter with very little ground game as Lister took him down and worked for the eventual submission finish at the end of the first round. Sakara is an Italian born fighter who has experience as a pro boxer. The UFC has attempted to push him hard as a light heavyweight contender and a loss here would most likely spell the end of his career in the UFC.
Drew McFedries is a talented young fighter who is a relative unknown on the MMA scene. McFedries needs to get this fight to the ground if he wants to have any chance. Lister exposed Sakara and if McFedries can follow his game plan he will leave victorious. Problem is that Lister is one of the best submission fighters in the world.
Inside The Number Says: This is a showcase fight for Sakara to hopefully erase the one sided loss to Lister. Look for Sakara to push the pace and get the knockout in the first round. The number is to high to play, as I could never lay 5-1 on a guy with Sakara's MMA ground skills. Sakara by 1st RD KO
Antoni Hardonk -275 Sherman Pendergrast +255
Inside the Number Says: Pendergrast is taking this fight on short notice but I think he matches up well here and will get a win in his first UFC fight. Pendergrast has been training with Miletich Elite Fighting and I think the preparation with Tim Sylvia will do wonders for his stand up. I am going to go out on a limb and make a small play on the dog. I see some value here. Pendergrast by 1st RD KO.
Nick Diaz -500 Greison Tibau +450
Inside The Number Says: After having one of the toughest stretch of fights in recent memory, Diaz finally gets a break here. Diaz should do his best to keep this standing and go for the early knockout. Diaz by 2nd RD K
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Post by LWPD on Nov 18, 2006 17:58:39 GMT -5
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Post by habbalah on Nov 19, 2006 3:04:39 GMT -5
Welp Mir went down in flames I'm happy. To qoute a wise orge, that'll do donkey.
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Post by Darth Turkish on Nov 19, 2006 8:28:49 GMT -5
Congrats to Tim Sylvia for his successful title defense. He did what he needed to to win. Good Sprawl, and very surprising control of the Abu Dhabi champion on the ground. I am not a Tim Sylvia fan, but he gained a great deal of respect from me last night. People who were booing him last night were a bunch of figgin' idiots. I really think that he could fight and defeat Fedor, save a bus full of children and leap small buildings in a single bound, and he'd still get a bunch of boos. He is not the most exciting fighter, nor he have a ripped muscular physique, and has kinda dumb hair, but he is good at what he does. Plus he really seems like a nice guy. Who cares if he wears his title belt to the grocery store? He is the champ and he did earn it; let him do what he wants.
I admit that I never felt good about Hughes in this fight. GSP and he are very equal in all of Hughes' strong areas, but GSP had a big advantage in Hughes' gaping hole: stand up. I have said a long time now that if he was going to be defeated, it was from stand up. GSP executed the perfect gameplan. Hughes looked timid and it cost him. Congrats to GSP on his domination of Hughes to win the title. Hughes got his just desserts for being so arrogant towards GSP.
Not a great night of fights, but nothing atrocious either. Brandon Vera will be a good challenger, and it will be interesting to see how he and Sylvia match up. Nice victory by Stephenson, and a classy act by asking the crowd to cheer for his opponent. Irvin is a tough guy that took a lot of shots, but I sort of wished he lost for being cocky at the end.
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Post by LWPD on Nov 19, 2006 8:37:54 GMT -5
Amazing card from top to bottom. One of the best UFC's I've ever seen. I watched at a party and even the casual fans were hooked by the undercard.
Vera and Stevenson both looked very impressive. I had never seen McFedries before and he was a huge underdog coming in...but he took out Sakara in a real slug fest. A really great fight.
I give props to Tim Sylvia. He has great takedown defense and has even improved his ground game. When he's on...I don't think there's anyone in the UFC HW division who can beat him.
GSP has some of the sickest ground and pound I've ever seen. Just a vicious assault. He was able to dictate the pace from start to finish and had Matt rattled from the opening bell onward. Matt Hughes was a great champion and has earned a place in history...but tonight the better man won. There's no shame in that.
Courtesy of Wrestling Observer
Jake O'Brien b Josh Shockman via unanimous 30-27 scores. O'Brien kept taking him down for three rounds in a largely uneventful fight.
James Irvin vs. Hector Ramirez is in the ring right now. Irvin is a super crowd favorite because he's local. Even though it's only prelims, the place is pretty much packed.
One hell of a first round. Major standing ovation. Ramirez took Irvin down several times and got his back twice working for a choke. Whenever Irvin got up, they had a couple of great slugfests. Ramirez 10-9 round.
Even round until Irvin knocked him down hard with an overhand right. He paused, expecing Mario Yamasaki to stop it. He didn't, so Irvin threw a kick and a few punches on the ground before Yamasaki stopped it. This one should make the live show as it was a real good fight. Not technically good, but some hard punches and the crowd was rabid for this one. Before the knockdown both were really tired and had slowed up.
Sherman Pendergarst vs. Antoni Hardonk is next up.
Pendergarst took Hardonk down and did some ground and pound. When Hardonk got to his feet, Pendergarst was tired and getting picked apart with kicks. After a punch to the jaw, Hardonk put Pendergarst down with a sweeping low kick midway through the round and didn't get up.
They just showed a commercial for UFC 66, based around Chuck Liddell destroying people to "The Immigrant Song" that was Bruiser Brody's entrance music in Japan during the 80s.
Nick Diaz vs. Gleison Tibau is next up. Diaz will be a big favorite as he's from Stockton.
First round was all on the ground. Tibau got Diaz's back and dominated positioning early. Tibau popped Diaz's elbow with a Kimura (Diaz was receiving medical treatment after the match). Diaz won the round late and was pounding him from the top hard enough to where Tibau was very close to being done at the bell. Diaz also scored a cool sweep into a near armbar midway through.
Diaz took threw a left and then took Tibau down and pinned him against the fence. He threw at least two dozen unanswered punches on the ground before it was stopped in the middle of round two.
The place appears top be either sold out, or very close to sold out at this point. There appear to be more people standing around than there are empty seats.
Joe Stevenson vs. Dokonjonosuke Mishima is up next. Mishima is wearing a Gronda mask of all things. Hopefully he shows more technical skill. Mishima got the first takedown, but Stevenson went three times for a guillotine, and on the third try got the tap early in round one. I did get a flashback of seeing the Iron Sheik vs. Davey Boy Smith at Arco Arena from the 80s with the loud "USA, USA" chant. Stevenson told the fans they needed to cheer for Mishima.
Frank Mir vs. Brandon Vera is next. The crowd is extremely pro-Mir. They think he's the star in this match. They may be in for a rude awakening.
That took barely a minute. Vera connected with several punches standing. When Mir tried a takedown, he got in a clinch and was hit with 3 hard knees. On the ground, Vera unloaded with punch after punch, bloodying Mir up before it was stopped at 1:09. Vera came through big as this fight was designed to get Vera over for a title shot at the Monson vs. Sylvia winner.
Even though the hardcore fans are clearly for St. Pierre, and Hughes was heavily booed at the weigh in, casual fans are into U.S. over Canada, I expect a bigger reaction to Hughes when they actually come out.
Alessio Sakara vs. Drew McFedries is next up.
McFedries won via stoppage. They were having a hell of a slugfest. Sakara was winning and I was amazed at McFedrie's ability to tkae punishment. McFedries used an uppercut to the jaw and and Sakara did a delayed fall. McFedries unloaded with a lot of shots on the ground before it was stopped late in the round. Very good match.
Tim Sylvia vs. Jeff Monson is next.
Sylvia was booed more than cheered. Anarchists rule tonight I guess. Sylvia got a gigantic reaction. I'd say 70% negative. Crowd is incredibly guzzed for this fight to start.
Crowd going crazy for Monson. Not much happened. Monson tried and failed at about four takedowns. Sylvia mostly pawed at him and cut him under the left eye. Monson hit the three most solid punches countering and I'd give him the round but it was close.
Crowd turned on the fight in a nothing happening round. Mostly Circling. Monson failed on a few takedown attempts. This time Sylvia connected more and probably won the round close, but another round like this and it's going to be one of those double loser fights.
Well, that changed. It wasn't that great a crowd but the crowd was going nuts. Monson got the takedown and controlled it with wrestling on the ground, got side control at one point and went for a few guillotine subs. Sylvia did almost as much damage from the bottom. Monson has a bad cut under his right eye and Sylvia may have knocked him down at the end of the round. Very close round again, Sylvia may have stolen it in the last 30 seconds.
Monson failed a takedown and Sylvia was on top for the first 4:00. Sylvia got a reverse at the end. Sylvia actually went for a triangle armbar at the end of the round. Monson looks like hell with his right eye swelling shut. He may have a nose problem. Sylvia won that round. It is conceivable it's tied although I've got it 3-1 for Sylvia.
Last round sucked, particularly since the crowd was for Monson. He failed a few takedowns and actually had a shot at winning the round just on aggression except he laid on his back and allowed Sylvia to kick him in his legs. Sylvia has to win this round. I've got it 49-46. Eddie Bravo also has it 49-46. This will probably be the worst fight of the show as well.
Scores were 50-45, 49-46 and 49-46 for Sylvia. Fans are booing the hell out of Sylvia. It's a combination of the bad fight and more the people badly wanted Monson to win.
They pretty well indicated Sylvia vs. Vera coming soon.
Matt Hughes vs. Georges St. Pierre is up next.
Hughes got a much bigger reaction. Both have their fans but Hughes has all the casual fans in his corner. Hughes does not look as confident as usual. St. Pierre is nervous, can't stand still. They both seem to knos this won't be easy. Actually Hughes got three times the reaction as St. Pierre when all was said and done.
I'd say 75-80% pro Hughes. There are "USA " chants and people are stomping their feet before it even starts.
Crowd turned for St. Pierre as won the round, dominating the stand-up. St. Pierre put Hughes down right at the end of the round with a flurry of punches and if the bell hadn't sounded that could have been it. Maybe 10-8 for St. Pierre.
St. Pierre put him down with a left high kick, basically in the kick it was the knee to the side of Hughes' head, and finished him with a flurry on the ground before it was stopped at 1:25 of the second round.
St. Pierre said he'd give him a rematch but this was a totally dominant performance.
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Post by swarm on Nov 19, 2006 17:09:41 GMT -5
it was a fun show. not one of the best I've seen, but fun. still surprised by how easily GSP beat Hughes. wow.
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Post by LWPD on Nov 19, 2006 19:38:16 GMT -5
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Post by vansabu on Nov 19, 2006 21:43:48 GMT -5
TIm Sylvia IS A BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love him and vera and St. Pierre...all very cool people and they are top notch performers, Thanks to all the fighters who help the UFC move on, thank you to all performers in any form of entertainment that put their bodies on the line to make a buck. I think that anyone who says otherwise is wrong...thanks for giving joy to the regular people, and for some performers thank you for being regular people yourself.
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Post by Darth Turkish on Nov 20, 2006 13:00:03 GMT -5
TIm Sylvia IS A BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love him and vera and St. Pierre...all very cool people and they are top notch performers, Thanks to all the fighters who help the UFC move on, thank you to all performers in any form of entertainment that put their bodies on the line to make a buck. I think that anyone who says otherwise is wrong...thanks for giving joy to the regular people, and for some performers thank you for being regular people yourself. Good post!
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Post by habbalah on Nov 22, 2006 9:18:21 GMT -5
Now I'm the last person to say anything non pro ufc.. but.... Tim S. put his body on the line? He fought a smart defensive fight. (Don't get me wrong Hell I kinda liked it) but I wouldn't say he put his body on the line. He did everything in his power not to.
Forgive my nit picking.
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Post by vansabu on Nov 22, 2006 9:51:28 GMT -5
Whats your name ? I must of missed it while i watched the fights, cause I didnt hear your name announced. Which guy did YOU fight ? None, Oh, pardon me, the way you talk sounded like YOU put your body on the line. So you tell me that training and preparation and even getting in the octogon isnt putting your body on the line? Wow, SHUT UP!!!!!
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Post by habbalah on Nov 23, 2006 18:53:08 GMT -5
Oh so I saw you out there? So as a fighter for the ufc your able to act like Matt Serra and tell me to shut up? Oh that's right, your not either. Hell your not even a journalist. At least I've written a column for mma at wwe 411 what the hell have you done?
I said Tim fought a smart fight. I a disagreed with you respectfully and you acted like a total tool. So let me get this straight.... In your magic world if I'm not a doctor I can't say if a dead body is obviously dead? In your own personal reality I guess unless I'm a cook I have no business saying wether a steak is well done or medium rare. I used common since to make a observation on what was obvious. Drop dead.
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