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Post by Shon Maxx on Apr 9, 2006 6:56:12 GMT -5
I like the rivalry between the coaches this year. The last 2 seemed liked friendly rivalries, though Hughes seemed to take it very seriously (like he does everything else).
I'm surprised that Shamrock is being downed so much. Hasn't he been training fighters for years? I figure this should be easy for him. I don't know anything about Ortiz, but he seems to be doing a great job so far.
I have a habit of picking the guys that stand out to me (like Luke Cummo last year), so my pick this year is Matt Hamill.
Take care,
Jay
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Post by Mad Dog on Apr 9, 2006 21:55:09 GMT -5
Most of the fighters will get a chance in the UFC as long as they make an ok showing for themselves while getting eliminated.
I think a lot of people overlook the fact that a lot of the guys on all 3 seasons of TUF were going to end up in the UFC with or without the show.
I was disappointed to see Burkman lose. I think he has the most ability out of the TUF welterweights.
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Post by LWPD on Apr 10, 2006 19:23:44 GMT -5
TUF 3 Ratings News
Courtesy of Spike TV Press Release
'The Ultimate Fighter 3' on Spike TV: A Knockout Premiere With 2.4 Million Viewers
Monday April 10, 1:55 pm ET
The Most Watched Original Series Premiere in Spike TV History
#1 Among Men 18-34 in Timeslot Against Broadcast and Cable
NEW YORK, April 10 /PRNewswire/ -- The Season 3 premiere of Spike TV's The Ultimate Fighter(TM) on Thursday, April 6 (10:00 - 11:30 PM, ET/PT) drew record ratings for the network and out-delivered anything else in television in its timeslot in the hard-to-reach demographic of Men 18-34. The 90-minute premiere also out-delivered major competition on cable including the NBA on TNT (Pistons vs. Heat and Lakers vs. Nuggets) and USA Network's coverage of The Masters.
Among the notable ratings achievements for the premiere of Spike TV's The Ultimate Fighter 3 include:
* #1 among Men 18-34 (3.71, 971,000) in its timeslot out delivering
everything on broadcast, cable, or pay cable.
* #1 in HH rating (1.95), average audience (2.4 million), Men 25-34 (5.03,
758,000), Men 18-49 (2.70, 1,411,000), Persons 18-49 (1.67, 1,794,000)
(Ad-supported cable only)
* Highest household ratings for an original series premiere in Spike TV
history (1.95)
* Defeated TNT's NBA doubleheader featuring the league's marquee teams
including Pistons vs. Heat/Lakers vs. Nuggets in household rating (1.95
to 1.68), average audience (2.4 million to 1.8 million), and Men 18-34
(3.61 to 1.41).
* Defeated USA Network's coverage of golf's biggest tournament, The
Masters, in average audience (2.4 to 2.2 million), Men 18-34 (3.61 to
0.72), and Men 18-49 (2.70 to 1.01).
* Highest delivery of Men 18-34 in network history for an original series
* Versus last year in the timeslot (MXC), up +236% in households, +429% in
Men 18-49, +395% in Men 18-34, and +262% in average audience.
* Earlier in the evening, Spike TV simulcasted the first-ever LIVE network
sporting event (Ultimate Fight Night Live) to a mobile device via Amp'd
mobile.
"It's a great start to Season 3 which promises to be the best one yet with the intense rivalry between Ken and Tito and an incredible crop of fearless athletes," remarked Kevin Kay, General Manager, Spike TV.
"The momentum continues to build which is really exciting for us. We were confident people would respond to the sport of mixed martial arts once they got to know the professional athletes who participate in it. Stay tuned, it's going to be a great season," said Dana White, President of the Ultimate Fighting Championship® organization.
About The Ultimate Fighter 3:
Sixteen of the best up-and-coming mixed martial artists from around the world have convened in Las Vegas in pursuit of one goal -- to be named the "ULTIMATE FIGHTER" and to be given a contract in the Ultimate Fighting Championship® organization. UFC legends and bitter rivals Ken Shamrock "The World's Most Dangerous Man" and Tito Ortiz, "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy," train and coach the participating light-heavyweights and middleweights. The Ultimate Fighter 3 is hosted by Dana White, UFC President. The premiere episode of the thirteen-part series culminated in a first round victory by Team Shamrock's Kalib Starnes (Vancouver, British Columbia) over Team Ortiz's Mike Stine (Hicksville, Long Island).
Craig Piligian of Pilgrim Films and Television, Frank Fertitta III, Lorenzo Fertitta, Dana White of Zuffa, LLC, and Kevin Kay of Spike TV are the show's executive producers. Brian J. Diamond is Vice President, Sports & Specials, Spike TV and Co-Executive Producer. Peter V. Symuleski serves as Executive in Charge of Production for Spike TV.
Spike TV, the first network for men, is available in 90 million homes and is a division of MTV Networks. MTV Networks, a division of Viacom International Inc.
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Post by Mad Dog on Apr 13, 2006 23:50:37 GMT -5
Tonight's fight went how I expected it to go. Shamrock is really looking like a poor coach at this point. He let his guy go in waaay too confident and I think he could really turn the team on him.
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Post by LWPD on Apr 14, 2006 7:54:28 GMT -5
Ken Shamrock's focus runs diametrically opposed to the interests of the individuals on his team. When training discipline breaks down in front of a coach something does need to be said...but when dealing with adults under the given setting _NOT_ in the manner in which he said it.
After Kalib won his match he was one step closer to the entire reason he's on the show...which is to win the contract. That's his dream and the entire reason behind 'why' he's sacrificing his time to be on the show. Of course he's going to prioritize his health until the semi-finals. There's not a fighter on the show who doesn't identify with that. Shamrock's attempts to ostracize a grown man in front of his team and on television was doomed from the start. His 'I demand respect' rant wound up polarizing _HIM_ from the rest of his team even more. He should have handled things in a calm respectful 'can I talk to you guys man to man in private' type of way. You can still have the cameras there but with a more 'I'm a professional you're a professional' tone. He seems to have anger management issues.
Tito on the other hand has been a class act outside the cage while showing he's all business once inside it. That's the mark of a true champion. He's taken out Shamrock's number 1 pick, has secured an interpreter for Matt Hamill, has formed a positive bond with most of his team and looks poised to steamroll over the poorly trained and disheveled 'Green Power' team....which will likely only grow more demoralized as time goes by.
I'd add it's hilarious to watch Ed Herman still being upset about having his dream of being Tito's #1 pick destroyed...as he continues to rant over how he hates him now. Truth be told he'd kill to get away from the Shamrock dinosaur techniques and onto Team Punishment if given a chance to make the switch!
Like Watching Paint Dry (maybe that kid Jesse wouldn't have gotten his arm broken and an early trip back home if master mind Ken Shamrock would have had the foresight to bring in a submission coach instead of a nutritionist)
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Post by Knapik on Apr 14, 2006 8:23:48 GMT -5
I don't know why, but I find myself constantly sympathizing when it comes to Shamrock. As in "Aw, Shamrock is so clueless"  |
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Post by Mad Dog on Apr 14, 2006 15:40:21 GMT -5
I thought it was an interesting fight this week. You could see Noah just slowly get ahold of the arm and waiting for his chance to lock it in.
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Post by Knapik on Apr 14, 2006 18:19:50 GMT -5
Noah didnt even have to work to extend the arm, Jesse did all the work for him. Noah did well and listened to his coach!
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Post by Mad Dog on Apr 14, 2006 19:03:39 GMT -5
I wanted to add that I find Tait and Michael to be highly annoying. Tait reminds me of that jerk in high school that always tried to start something over some minor question. Michael's just being a baby about the fact that Matt needs a little extra attention due to his disability.
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Post by Darth Turkish on Apr 14, 2006 21:59:51 GMT -5
I have missed the first two episodes. Are they any good?
Is this season worth watching, or has it become like American Idol in that "You've seen Simon degrade person, you have seen it all"?
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Post by Knapik on Apr 14, 2006 22:27:08 GMT -5
Yeah Tait comes off as a big time jerk... he was picked last, maybe that's why.
Michael is my pick to win. I kind of think he's being a baby, but at the same time I understand where he's coming from. I think it would be awesome if it comes down to Michael and Matt (a definite possibility.)
I'm excited to see Ed Herman take his frustration out on someone!
I picked Ed and Michael, my friend picked Noah (pre-episode 1) and Ross... anyone else have their picks?
Oh, and yeah Turkish I like it much better than last season. Tito and Ken add a cool dynamic with their different coaching styles and personalities.
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Post by Mad Dog on Apr 14, 2006 23:18:24 GMT -5
Tait's record isn't that impressive. He's 3-1. 2 of those wins are over cans with losing records and a marginal guy who's 16-10.
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Post by Knapik on Apr 14, 2006 23:23:40 GMT -5
Did you notice Joe was buddy buddy with Tait who was in attendance at Ultimate Fight Night 4? I wonder if that tells us anything.
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Post by habbalah on Apr 15, 2006 3:55:55 GMT -5
I have missed the first two episodes. Are they any good? Is this season worth watching, or has it become like American Idol in that "You've seen Simon degrade person, you have seen it all"? It's very watchable Turk. A little to watchable. (you watch american Idol? SHAME>> SHAME! on you, next you'll tell me you use to watch friends). Alot of these kids need a swift kick in the (you get the idea). I hate Ken Shamrock.. and I think he's reasonable next to these guys. They make Leben seem mature. (most of them). |
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Post by LWPD on Apr 15, 2006 9:02:29 GMT -5
I have missed the first two episodes. Are they any good? Is this season worth watching, or has it become like American Idol in that "You've seen Simon degrade person, you have seen it all"? Blasphemy Turkish! You can watch the first two episodes in order via streaming video starting here: tinyurl.com/jtq2g |
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Post by Darth Turkish on Apr 15, 2006 9:29:17 GMT -5
AHHHHHRRRRRGGGGHHH! NO, man! I do NOT watch American Idol! I USED to, but when one really hot chick was booted ....ah, never mind!  Thanks guys! I will definitely begin to check it out!  |
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Post by LWPD on Apr 15, 2006 15:56:01 GMT -5
Article on TUF Coach Tito Ortiz
Courtesy of FOXSports.com
By Dave Doyle
Bad Boy Ortiz ready for UFC redemption
The Huntington Beach Bad Boy is back in the Ultimate Fighting Championship. Or is he?
Tito Ortiz made his name as one of the toughest fighters inside the octagon and one of the brashest talkers on the outside. His skills earned him a lengthy reign as UFC light heavyweight champion. His mouth earned him notoriety, movie roles, endorsements, and his Bad Boy nickname — and eventually a ticket out of the promotion.
But the charismatic Ortiz is back after a year-long absence, and says he is older, wiser, and determined to shore up his legacy in the sport of mixed martial arts. Saturday, the former champion makes his return to the octagon when he takes on up-and-comer Forrest Griffin in the co-feature of UFC 59: Reality Check at the sold-out Arrowhead Pond in Anaheim, UFC's first show in the Golden State.
Tito Ortiz's feud with Ken Shamrock was legendary in MMA circles. The two just might have it out again on The Ultimate Fighter television show. (Copyright Zuffa LLC/Ultimate Fighting Championship / FOXSports.com)
So far, it seems that while Ortiz is back, the Bad Boy has stayed home. "Fighting is where my heart is really at," said the Huntington Beach, Calif. native. "I just turned 31, I love to compete. I still have the fire. I want my world title back and I am ready to redeem myself. I'm in my prime right now, so why waste time sitting around?"
Ortiz, who wrestled at Cal State-Bakersfield before breaking into MMA, made his name as the first breakthrough star of the modern UFC era, beating current Pride middleweight champion Wanderlei Silva to claim what was then the UFC middleweight crown in 2000 (the weight classes were later re-formulated) and retained what became the light heavyweight belt for over three years.
Along the way, Ortiz became known as much for his pro wrestling bad-guy type histrionics as his relentless aggression. After defeating Ken Shamrock protégé Guy Metzger in 1999, Ortiz donned a profane, homemade t-shirt disparaging Metzger.
Shamrock, a UFC Hall of Famer, took exception to the disrespect. When the two finally fought in 2002, setting UFC gate and pay-per-view records that stood until February's Chuck Liddell-Randy Couture fight, Ortiz won, then donned an "Oh my god, I killed Kenny" t-shirt.
Such actions were tolerated as long as Ortiz was winning. But Ortiz took a 10-month hiatus from defending his title after beating Shamrock, causing frustrated UFC officials to create an "interim champion" in the meantime. When Ortiz returned, he lost to the interim champion, Couture, in a five-round decision, then lost a much-anticipated match with Liddell in just two rounds.
Just like that, Ortiz found himself knocked off the top of the heap. So he took a hiatus when his contract ran out.
"What would I have done differently? Not lose," said Ortiz with a laugh. "I can't take back anything I did before. I'll just say I've had a lot of learning experiences, and it made me the fighter I am today. At this level, holding the world championship is where it is at. Chuck Liddell has a great gift, but I've been where he is and I know what it's like to be a champion and I'll be there once again."
Ortiz sat on the sidelines for awhile, but didn't stay quiet. He made regular appearances on the TNA Impact pro wrestling shows that airs after UFC programming on Spike TV ("A million people watch that show," Ortiz said. "My fans needed to know I was still around.") He's also appeared in several films, with credits including Cradle to the Grave, The Crow: Wicked Prayer, and Valley of the Wolves.
"I like being in front of the camera," said Ortiz. "To me, UFC is entertainment. It is sport and it is competition, but I see it as entertainment for the people too. That's what separates me from other fighters, people watch Tito Ortiz because he's exciting and entertaining, so why not carry on in the acting side of it when I'm through fighting."
That attitude makes Ortiz a natural for his current role as a coach on Spike TV's The Ultimate Fighter reality show. Ortiz is coaching a team of prospective UFC fighters against a team led by old nemesis Shamrock.
"There are definitely contrasting coaching styles on the show," he said. "I have my way of coaching and Ken has his. Did we fight at all? Did we get into it? That's one of the things the people want to know. I'm not saying. You'll have to tune in and find out. I put my heart into it, and being a wrestling coach, I didn't hold anything back, really pushed my guys."
With the taping of the show complete, Ortiz has to focus on pushing himself back into the shape that made him a conditioning marvel even by UFC's lofty standards and a nasty ground-and-pound fighter. UFC history is filled with former headliners who had a tough time returning to the elite level after leaving and returning, but Ortiz doesn't think he belongs in that category.
"I see Couture just got done competing at 43 years old," said Ortiz. "Liddell is still at his peak holding the title at 37, and I'm still young, still have my best years ahead of myself. I'm learning every day in the gym. In this sport people in their prime are 34 or 35."
The road back begins with his fight against Griffin in his SoCal debut. Vegas oddsmakers have installed Ortiz as a heavy favorite against Griffin, who won the light heavyweight division in the first season of The Ultimate Fighter.
"Forrest Griffin is a really tough competitor," Ortiz said. "A lot of guys are telling me 'you're going to beat this guy down,' but I don't see it that way. He's bigger than me, he's 6-3, walks around at 235 and cuts down to 205, I think Forrest is young and hungry and expect him to give me all I can handle.
"This is something I've been dreaming about," Ortiz continued. "I've always wanted to fight at home in Southern California and now I'm headlining a history-making show, the first-ever UFC show in California. Fighting in my own backyard, 20 minutes away from my hometown, all those people who used to go to Vegas to see me, I want to give the people what they're paying to see."
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Post by habbalah on Apr 16, 2006 15:33:51 GMT -5
AHHHHHRRRRRGGGGHHH! NO, man! I do NOT watch American Idol! I USED to, but when one really hot chick was booted ....ah, never mind! Thanks guys! I will definitely begin to check it out! Alright mister, your sitting down to a whole evening of drinking and vomiting. No more American idol. We'll not lose you to liberal tree hugging hippie rainbow coalition of men who think it's alright to cry (hay like TIto heh you'll get that last part after you see episode 1 and 2). |
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Post by Darth Turkish on Apr 16, 2006 17:09:23 GMT -5
AHHHHHRRRRRGGGGHHH! NO, man! I do NOT watch American Idol! I USED to, but when one really hot chick was booted ....ah, never mind! Thanks guys! I will definitely begin to check it out! Alright mister, your sitting down to a whole evening of drinking and vomiting. No more American idol. We'll not lose you to liberal tree hugging hippie rainbow coalition of men who think it's alright to cry (hay like TIto heh you'll get that last part after you see episode 1 and 2). But I DO NOT w.... ah ferget it! I'm just going to tell this wall instead.  |
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Post by LWPD on Apr 20, 2006 18:28:29 GMT -5
Just a reminder. At 9 PM tonight Spike will be running a Royce Gracie Special of Unleashed. Look for a ton of old school UFC!
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IPPON!!
