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Post by PureHatred on Feb 25, 2006 21:57:48 GMT -5
Is there a way to differentiate on the on-line catalog between the Special Edition cards that are more vital to storylines?
The orginal SEs were basically identical or only slightly different from the orginal card but had updated artwork. like Bishop Hell or Chaos. So they were sort of "optional."
But some cards, like Euritar and Godsend from aCe Reinforcements, are completely different and actually an integral part of the set they're released with. I sort of understand if you are trying to maintain the price of sets, so they're not included.
But could you make a distinction? I know for myself, after I did the Storm the Ring and Brawl, I read through the booklets and ended up going back and ordering another 10 cards or so after I realized they were a must have.
And if I'd ordered aCe w/o ordering Godsend, i would've kicked myself in the face.
Any way you could possible designate whihc SEs are the more important ones?
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Post by Knapik on Feb 25, 2006 22:55:51 GMT -5
Hey Hatred if you need a Euritar I have an extra.
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Post by Knapik on Feb 25, 2006 23:41:11 GMT -5
I'll make a list for you tonight when I get home if no one has helped you yet.
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Post by offspring515 on Feb 26, 2006 0:53:32 GMT -5
I'd really appreciate a list like that too. I only made it up to 2096, so i think all the SE cards I bought were just art updates. I'd like to know which are "essential" because i'm on a limited budget.
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Post by Knapik on Feb 26, 2006 2:23:16 GMT -5
There were some I didn't know or was unsure about... missing a few sorry guys :/
NECESSARY means something has changed. I suppose necessary is subjective. I realized at the end I could have just listed what WASN'T necessary haha.
2094 - Alpha Foce - art update 2095 - Brute/Massacre - art update 2095 - Bishop Hell - art update 2096 - Chaos - art update 2098 - Maxine Babe - NECESSARY (valet with wrestling stats) 2099 - Massif Referee - NECESSARY (special ref) 2099 - Colossus - NECESSARY (stat update - upgrade) 2099 - Wolf - art update 2099 - Thakur the Oppressor - NECESSARY (makes rulings on Gladiator feud decisions) 2100 - Mayhem - art update 2100 - Grunge - art update 2101 - Commissioner Grogan - NECESSARY (new commish card) 2101 - Heracles - NECESSARY (stat update) 2102 - Qualitar's Talk Show - NECESSARY (talk show card) 2102 - Pegasus - art update 2102 - Alpha Force - art update 2103 - Ram - NECESSARY (Ram's slave card -stats change, I believe) 2103 - Dark Justice - NECESSARY (new bada$$ persona with stat change) 2104 - Monad - NECESSARY (stat change) 2104 - Mayhem - NECESSARY (stat change after joining W.A.R.) 2104 - Doomsayer - NECESSARY (Doomsayer wrestling card) 2104 - Draconian Sheik - NECESSARY (stat change) 2105 - Dreadnaught - NECESSARY (stat change) 2105 - Death's Head - NECESSARY (stat change)2105 - Maxine Babe - NECESSARY (stat change) 2106 - Krakan - NECESSARY (manager card) 2106 - Lord Nexus - NECESSARY (manager card) 2106 - Janus - NECESSARY (stat change) 2106 - Vertigo - NECESSARY (manager card) 2107 - GWF Commissioner 2107 - NECESSARY (new commish) 2107 - CPC Commissioner - NECESSARY (new commish) 2108 - Chaos - NECESSARY (stat change) 2108 - Alpha Force - NECESSARY (stat change) 2108 - Lance At-Las - NECESSARY (stat change) 2108 - Greg The Hammer Valentine - NECESSARY (only available this way or through Legends of Wrestling) 2109 - Mandrill - art update 2109 - Brute - NECESSARY (manager card) 2109 - Genocide - NECESSARY (stat change - downgrade after separation from Buck Steele) 2110 - Mutant - NECESSARY (stat change - upgrade) 2110 - Trisis - NECESSARY (interview card) 2110 - Wolf - NECESSARY (stat change - upgrade) 2111 - Warfare - NECESSARY (stat change - from tag to singles) 2111 - Rising Sun - NECESSARY (stat change - from tag to singles) 2111 - Terminus - NECESSARY (stat change - upgrade) 2111 - Euritar - NECESSARY (stat change - upgrade) 2112 - Murdok - NECESSARY (otherwise not available until 2117) 2112 - Avenging Warrior - NECESSARY (manager card) 2112 - Thunder - NECESSARY (stat change - upgrade) 2112 - Trench - NECESSARY (stat change) 2113 - Vengeance - NECESSARY (stat change) 2113 - Mesmer - NECESSARY (magic card!) 2113 - Phantast - NECESSARY (magic card!) 2113 - Avalanche - NECESSARY (only way available) 2114 - Genocide - NECESSARY (stat change) 2114 - Bounty Hunter - NECESSARY (manager card) 2114 - Atys Tetrac - NECESSARY (stat change for Manslaughter) 2114 - Spike - NECESSARY (Minister of War card) 2115 - Blazing Skull - NECESSARY (stat change) 2115 - Vallah - NECESSARY (Keeper of the Realms w/chart) 2116 - Atman - NECESSARY (stat change) 2116 - Commissioner Massif - NECESSARY (new commish) 2117 - Warfare - NECESSARY (stat update) 2117 - Manslaughter - NECESSARY (stat update) 2118 - Maramus - NECESSARY (manager card) 2118 - Darkseed - NECESSARY (stat update - upgrade) 2118 - Disaster Limited Edition - art update
Also keep in mind you'll need Son of Bash, Galacticon Bash, all 6 promoter created cards (Halcon Oro, Kati, Comedy, Tragedy, Varsity, Sabre) and Birthday Bash. Birthday Bash only introduces Eagle, Blazing Skull, and Gila I believe.
Splatter - CPC 2116 - MANAGER CARD Comedy - CPC 2116 - STAT CHANGE (NEW WRESTLER) Gila - CPC 2117 - STAT CHANGE (MANAGER CARD w/ MOLLOCK) Franco Jesterelli - CPC 2117 - MANAGER CARD Killer Queen - CPC 2118 - STAT CHANGE Dr. Barnabas - CPC 2118 - MANAGER CARD Grunge - CPC 2119 - STAT CHANGE Commissioner Prell - CPC 2119 - NEW COMMISH Puma - CPC 2120 - STAT CHANGE - DOWNGRADE Talisman - CPC 2120 - MANAGER CARD
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Post by offspring515 on Feb 26, 2006 3:20:31 GMT -5
Well...looks like i'll be buying lots of cards Thanks for the hard work knapik, much appreciated!
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Post by PureHatred on Feb 26, 2006 13:15:10 GMT -5
knapik, thanks for the Euritar offer. I have the card, but I appreciate anyways.
Also, that list is awesome. That's exaclty what I was talking about. it would be a huge use for buyers of the game who are getting back editions. And if it can't be available on the catalog then at the very least, this thread should be pinned.
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Post by TheOtherTravis on Feb 26, 2006 16:32:12 GMT -5
Just thought that I would add the few that were missing:
2100 - Grunge - art update 2102 - Alpha Force - art update 2106 - Krakan - manager card 2106 - Lord Nexus - manager card 2106 - Janus - stat change for when he joins CPC (debatable if this is an upgrade or downgrade) 2108 - Alpha Force - stat change (for when he teams with Chaos) 2108 - Chaos - stat change (for when he gets his confidence back) 2114 - Spike - Minister of War card (chart for when he accompanies Gladiators to ringside) 2115 - Vallah - Keeper of the Realms card (chart on back) 2116 - Atman - move names change for when he joins the Immortals, but no statistical changes.
I guess whether or not the cards are necessary are pretty much up to you. Although, I would say that at a minimum, the Alpha Force (2108) and Chaos (2108) cards are necessary.
Peace.
~Trav
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Post by Knapik on Feb 26, 2006 18:28:04 GMT -5
Thanks, Travis!
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Post by MikeMcKinney on Feb 26, 2006 19:19:29 GMT -5
What bout Endgame SE thats the only one I don't have!!!!!!
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Post by hawk on Feb 26, 2006 20:20:25 GMT -5
Colossus & Heracules SE cards both have stat changes, and in Colossus's case, his secondary finisher gets stronger.
Their both quite nessicary.
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Post by TheOtherTravis on Feb 26, 2006 20:29:06 GMT -5
What bout Endgame SE thats the only one I don't have!!!!!! Do you mean the limited edition card for 2117? It's a slightly downgraded card from the one in 2119. He has a level 2 move on level 1 offense, where the 2119 card has a level 3 move, and reversal-1 on level 1 defense, where the 2119 card has a reversal-2. Other than that, the cards are pretty much identical. Peace. ~Trav
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Post by Knapik on Feb 26, 2006 21:08:44 GMT -5
Heracles does? Hmm I didn't notice. I'll modify my post to reflect it! Thanks
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Post by Big Bri on Feb 27, 2006 20:39:43 GMT -5
Thanks knapik & Travis!! I've been wanting some clarification on SE cards for a loooooooong time!
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Post by GalactiKing on Feb 28, 2006 0:14:12 GMT -5
Just a note....Disaster's SE card has no changes to his card.
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Post by Knapik on Feb 28, 2006 2:39:55 GMT -5
MY bad, thought he went from the roll finisher to the +4 on that card. Thanks, Troy
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Post by Tom on Feb 28, 2006 12:37:57 GMT -5
This has been an excellent and much-needed discussion. Thank you.
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Post by joethereturner on Sept 14, 2007 19:23:11 GMT -5
Thought I'd bump this up a little since it's such a great resource. Thanks for the list Knapik!
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Post by MikeMcKinney on Oct 5, 2007 18:21:14 GMT -5
Tkx Knapik...you are awesome.
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Post by JMello on Oct 7, 2007 23:11:12 GMT -5
Also, as far as the Bash sets go, if you're playing classics there is a three week period where you need Avenging Warrior.
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